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https://disqus.com/home/discussion/uatodaytv/forgotten_security_guarantee_ukraine_slams_russia_for_violating_budapest_memorandum/#comment-3044847445
http://www.geographia.com/russia/rushis02.htm
http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?historyid=ac14
kremlinmedia last 2!

possibly they think/say they are not to blame cause everyone know russia is no country, in 1721 ruler peter renamed Muscovy to russia...which was just stolen name and history from Ukraine.  Even most russian historians, not paid by Kremlin that is, say Muscovy/"russia"-RF is in fact just north Ukraine.
Since big pretender Putin came into power they keep trying to rewrite history, even on Wikipedia.
Bad luck for them I collect paper encylopedia's in dutch and english, and past history can't be rewritten... let's start our own hybrid war on those big pretender Muscovites on Wikipedia to correct their many rewrites: to begin with: the Tsardom of Russia 1547 IvanIV which NEVER excisted, cause in 1721 Peter renamed MUSCOVY to russia.
http://gumilevica.kulichki.net/VGV/index.html(russian) http://gumilevica.kulichki.net/VGV/vgv5.htm muscovy(russian) from last III
Ivan IV was crowned king in the Assumption Cathedral 16 January 1547 coronation ritual was similar to what took place at the coronation of the grandson of Ivan III Dmitry in 1496 were, however, some differences. Although the term "kingdom" was frequently mentioned during the coronation of Dmitry, he was crowned the Grand Duke. Ivan IV was formally crowned king of Metropolitan Macarius. ........  (of muscovy)[65]
so NOT tsar...or tsardom in 1547


https://disqus.com/home/discussion/uatodaytv/forgotten_security_guarantee_ukraine_slams_russia_for_violating_budapest_memorandum/#comment-3044847445
http://www.geographia.com/russia/rushis02.htm
http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?historyid=ac14

possibly they think/say they are not to blame cause everyone know russia is no country, in 1721 ruler peter renamed Muscovy to russia...which was just stolen name and history from Ukraine.  Even most russian historians, not paid by Kremlin that is, say Muscovy/"russia"-RF is in fact just north Ukraine.
Since big pretender Putin came into power they keep trying to rewrite history, even on Wikipedia.
Bad luck for them I collect paper encylopedia's in dutch and english, and past history can't be rewritten... let's start our own hybrid war on those big pretender Muscovites on Wikipedia to correct their many rewrites: to begin with: the Tsardom of Russia 1547 IvanIV which NEVER excisted, cause in 1721 Peter renamed MUSCOVY to russia.
http://gumilevica.kulichki.net/VGV/index.html(russian) http://gumilevica.kulichki.net/VGV/vgv5.htm muscovy(russian) from last III
Ivan IV was crowned king in the Assumption Cathedral 16 January 1547 coronation ritual was similar to what took place at the coronation of the grandson of Ivan III Dmitry in 1496 were, however, some differences. Although the term "kingdom" was frequently mentioned during the coronation of Dmitry, he was crowned the Grand Duke. Ivan IV was formally crowned king of Metropolitan Macarius. ........  (of muscovy)[65]
so NOT tsar...or tsardom in 1547

Ancient Russia is rewrite by "russians" of Ukraine history:

In 12th century the land is first mentioned as Ukraine. Russia does not exist http://empr.media/culture/history/first-mentioned-ukraine-russia-not-exists/
Arabs knew Ukraine as RUSS and called Black Sea Russ Sea around year 1000.

The Grand Duchy of Moscow, is not changed to the Tsardom of Russia by Tsar Ivan IV in 1547. https://books.google.nl/books?id=eD5AkdM83iIC&pg=PA241&lpg=PA241&dq=peter+the+great+1721+renaming+muscovy+to+russia&source=bl&ots=lQ40ZlFkR0&sig=15m-TkIa_JeGc6fKg5MsPudvcuY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi10bfLxdvQAhUEtBoKHYH4DTsQ6AEIKTAC#v=onepage&q=peter%20the%20great%201721%20renaming%20muscovy%20to%20russia&f=false
was renamed not from muscovy to tsardom of russia in 1547 but was done in 1721 and renamed THEN from muscovy to russia.
(also russian trolls try to rewrite Wikipedia)
The name of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchy_of_Moscow Grand Duchy of Moscow , changed for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia Russia by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_the_Great Tsar Peter I in the early 18th century. The goal of this change was to establish a connection between Muscovy and medieval state of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus%27 Kievan Rus' , thus claiming the right of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow Moscow to possess all the lands of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus Rus' . Muscovy was officially renamed by Russian imperial decree in 1721. The ethnonym https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian "Russian" was fixed later - only at the end of the century, when https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_the_Great Empress Catherine II of "the highest command" Moscow ordered the people called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians "Russian people" and forbade them to use the title of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscovites "Muscovites".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSn_0tBD_lE history channel ivan the terrible no mention of tsardom Ivan Moscow, it is just called Muscovy & Muscovites
Map of Poland and Hungary by Sebastian Munster, 1550. The map shows “Russia” for Ukraine, “Russia Alba” for Belarus, while the Moscow Princedom is called “Moscovia.” (karty.by) http://www.karty.by/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Sebastian-Munster_Poloniae-Et-Ungariae-Nova-Descriptio1550.jpg http://www.karty.by/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Sebastian-Munster_1552_basel_Nouvelle-description-de-Poloigne-Hongri.jpg color
1723 Ukraine and Moscovia on same map http://www.karty.by/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/x-moskovie_1723.jpg Polish & russian Ukraine and Moskovia 1723 http://www.karty.by/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/moskovai.Herman-Moll-1723.jpg
http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/05/14/how-moscow-hijacked-the-history-of-kyivan-rus/

Btw while there was Muscovy, there never was, is , and will be a country named "russia"

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4076 Hakluyt, Richard, 1552?-1616 Title The Discovery of Muscovy Language English LoC Class DK: History: General and Eastern Hemisphere: Russia, Former Soviet Republics, Poland Subject Willoughby, Hugh, Sir, d. 1554 Subject Chancellor, Richard, d. 1556

http://vgolos.com.ua/articles/rosiya_znykne_todi_koly_my_monopolizuiemo_istoriyu_kyivskoi_rusi_223333.html Name Russia will disappear when Ukraine monopolizes history of Kyvian Rus, then it will be again Muscovy...rofl ol

Russia is NO country, it's offical name is Russian Federation (RF) a unvoluntary federation of 85 parts of which Muscovy/Moscow is the parasite.

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://vgolos.com.ua/articles/rosiya_znykne_todi_koly_my_monopolizuiemo_istoriyu_kyivskoi_rusi_223333.html&usg=ALkJrhgY67mi8WCvMVnViPcR9p_LC6gcvA
http://gumilevica.kulichki.net/VGV/index.html(russian) http://gumilevica.kulichki.net/VGV/vgv5.htm muscovy(russian) from last III
Ivan IV was crowned king in the Assumption Cathedral 16 January 1547 coronation ritual was similar to what took place at the coronation of the grandson of Ivan III Dmitry in 1496 were, however, some differences. Although the term "kingdom" was frequently mentioned during the coronation of Dmitry, he was crowned the Grand Duke. Ivan IV was formally crowned king of Metropolitan Macarius. Moreover, the cross and the royal decoration on the head and shoulders of Ivan is now perceived as the ones that were supposedly sent by the Byzantine Emperor Constantine Monomakh Kievan prince Vladimir Monomakh at the beginning of the XII century. [65]


rob hansen
Russian history clearly shows Ukraine to be part of Russia, RUSSIAN HISTORY IS BASED A FALSIFICATION KNOWN AS THE CATHERINE CORICALS !!!

How can Ukriane be a part of any Russia if Russia did not be a reality you dimwit .... Moscow was to before after 1300 Ukriane and kyiv is from the 890 over 300 years before any moscow... Also Russia was not even a nation before Peter give it brith it in 1721 .. before that is was city state called moscow and that came into the world only 1300 .. So if Kyiv and Ukriane was in 890 you to the math !!

PRINCE VOLODYMYR WAS NEVER RUSSIAN JUST LIKE ALEXANDER NEVSKY WAS NOT RUSSIAN !!!

IT IS A MYTH RUSSIA NEVER SHOWED ITS UGLY FACE BEFORE 1721 AFTER IT WAS PROCLAIMED BY PETTER AND THE CAPITAL OF THIS NEW NATION WAS ST. PETTERSBURG..

Peter did this after Treaty of Frederiksborg (1720), and the Russo-Swedish Treaty of Nystad (1721) and after the battle of Poltava...That is when Russia became Russia.. Another thing is what we today call Russians are not Russians as they are not Slavic like Ukrainians or Polish people read on to get the facts,,,,,,

LET ME GO MORE INTO THE FACTS

But first lets take a look at USA ..... The United States as a nation began with the signing of the Declaration of Independence in 1776 - as well as a century and a half earlier, when a group of English Puritans landed on Plymouth Rock in 1620.

All nations have a story to tell how they came into being. Some are rooted in ancient history while others, including numerous new nations that arose on the ruins of European colonial expansion, tie their emergence to more recent events. But whether mythical or historical, those origins are always connected to the land those nations inhabit.

Not so Russia. It may be the only major nation to locate its origins in a foreign country. Every Russian school kid learns that his country’s history began on the banks of the Dnipro, in Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine.

It is as if Americans had decided to trace their history back in the time of William the Conqueror in 1066, War of the Roses or Edward The Confessor ha ha ha ha ....

This may seem like a minor thing, but it explains a great deal in the average Russian’s attitude toward Ukrainians. If Russia is a direct descendant of historic Kyivan Rus, how can another nation equally trace its origins to it - a nation, moreover, still occupying the same territory?

Vladimir Putin recently declared that Ukrainians and Russians are “one folk” - meaning, of course, that Ukrainians are Russian. An extraordinary number of his countrymen share this belief. Imagine a prime minister of the United Kingdom insisting that Americans are not a nation but merely Brits with funny accents. But it is even more ridiculous than that: it’s as though the Italian president would lay claim on Spain - or one of Spain’s former colonies in Latin America - asserting that the Spanish language is a bastardized form of Italian.

Russia’s attitude to Ukraine and things Ukrainian reflects deeply ingrained imperial complexes, revealing that, while the Soviet Empire collapsed in 1991, the Russian Empire still lingers in the minds of the citizens of the Russian Federation. And, one of the strangest things this past year has been the number people with Ukrainian surnames, many of them also born in Ukraine but now living in Russia, who spew hatred for their native land.

What we know today to be Russians are nothing more than Finnish nomadic tribes that assimilated with the Mongolian horde in the 1200 They are not Slavic people like Ukrainians or Polish people even if they claim to be, and therefore have no real claim to Slavic lands or history .. But descendants from finish nomadic tribes that assimilated with the Mongolian.

The Russians brainwashed just continue to brainwash everyone, when they assert that Kyivan Rus was the cradle of three sibling nations – Russians, Ukrainians and Belarus; and that because the Russians are “older brothers”, they have the right to the legacy of Kyivan Rus. To this day, Russian historians and officials make use of this woeful lie, which is repeated by Putin in his propaganda today .

Here are the facts:

At the time of the Kyivan Empire there was no mention of a Moscow nation in history Russia was not a part of history before 1721 when it was proclaimed be peter the grate It is well known that Moscow was created in 1277 as a subservient vassal region or ‘ulus’ to the Golden Horde, established by the Khan Mengu-Timur. By that time, Ukrainians city of Kiev and the Ukrainians peoples the Kyivan Rus had existed for more than 300 years.

There are no indications of any connection of Ukrainians peoples the Kyivan Rus with the Finnish ethnic groups in the land of ‘Moksel’ what today we know as Russia or the later of the Moscow principality with the Principality of Kyivan Rus up until the XVI century. At the time when the Ukrainians peoples (Kyivan Rus ) had officially accepted Christianity, the Finn tribes in ‘Moksel’ today's Russia was still was living in a semi-primitive nomadic state.

How can anyone speak of ‘an older brother’ when that ‘older brother’ did not first appear until centuries after Rus-Ukrainians? He has no moral right to call himself an ‘older brother’, nor to dictate how people are to live, nor to force his culture, language, and world views.

http://www.euromaidanpress.com/2014/05/14/how-moscow-hijacked-the-history-of-kyivan-rus/

Russians er nothing more then confused Mongolians that must have some sort of dimwit Syndrome thinking they are from Ukrainian Kiev Russ and Slavic background..

The DNA study of today's so called Russians shows that the historical facts are that Russians are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendants and NOT Slavic like Ukrainians and polish people ...

The DNA evidence proves that Russians with out a doubt are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendants ..

Mongolian blood in Russians see link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=10&v=VmiYqpT0zrE

THE R1a explanation for dummy's Russians have is R1a-Z93 and is the main Asian branch of R1a.

Western and Northern European and also western Ukrainians have R1a -Z284 falls under the root R1a1a1* (M417), So this proves Russians are Asian NOT Europeans..

Russians er nothing more then Mongolians with Down Syndrome thinking they are from Kiev Russ and Slavic background when the DNA study of today's so called Russians shows that the historical facts are they they are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendents and NOT Slavic...

The Mongolian Y-DNA (paternal) haplogroup R1a-Z93 and is the main Asian branch of R1a. and its offshoots are very common and the dominant gen among Russian men.

Studies have found the ethnic Russian frequency of R1a high as 62.7 percent, with an average of 46.7% of Russians in the "Russia-DNA Project" include R1a1, R1a1a, R1a1a1g, and R1a1a1g2.

1. RuSSian myth about Ukraine and Crimea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMgjYetl4pQ

2. Mongols founded Russia or Muscovy (1328)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ChVHBLMgCU



LET ME GO MORE INTO THE ISSUE AND FACTS ..

The Vikings, the Rus’ & Kiev — the Entangled History of Russia and Ukraine

Stepping away for a moment from the unfolding current events in the Ukraine and Russia, it might be worthwhile to look at the history of the region, which was shaped by the arrival of merchant adventurers rowing long ships called Vikings by the Scandinavians and called Rus by the Finish tribs .

Take a look  at the http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangians

As with so much of history known as the Viking age, it began with the Vikings in period A.D. 793–1066 historians tend to agree with the Primary Chronicle that these Scandinavians founded Kievan Rus' in the 880s and gave their name to the land. Many Russian scholars are opposed to this theory of Germanic influence on the Rus' (people) and have suggested alternative scenarios for this part of Eastern European history.. This is because of the falsification of history done by Catherine the great with something called the Catherine chronicles In 1792, 'Catherine's falsification of History' saw the light of day. and that is the version Russia likes to present to its self and the world..

See link how Russia hijacked Ukrainian history

http://www.euromaidanpress.com/2014/05/14/how-moscow-hijacked-the-history-of-kyivan-rus/



The Norse Vikings, from the region that we now call Scandinavia , rowed their long ships deep into the rivers of Central and Eastern Europe; pushing up the Volga, the Dnieper, the Volkhov and the Neva rivers, among others. Using rivers and lakes connected to the Volga, these Vikings traded as far as Iran. On a separate route on the Dnieper River, the Vikings traveled as far as Greece.

THE KIAVAN RUSS AND VIKINGS

Grand Prince Yaroslav the Wise, whose wife Ingegerd was from Swedish / Norwegian roalty

The first half of 1031 the Viking King Harald and his men were welcomed by Grand Prince Yaroslav the Wise, whose wife Ingegerd was a distant relative of King Harald of Norway.

They were called the Varangians by the Greeks and Eastern Slavs. The Finns called them the Rus‘ which meant “men who row.” In 862 the Viking chieftain Rurik made Kiev, a into a viking trading port and integrated with Slavic tribes this village on the Dnieper became his new capital. The kindom he established became known as the “land of the Rus’.” (Later, 19th century historians would dub the kingdom the “Kievan Rus.”) The Ruriks Kievan Rus kingdom lasted for close to 400 years before the invasion of the Mongul hordes.

Russia stole the name Rus from the real Rus’ aka Ukrainians Kiev Rus as the Kievan Rus kingdom was literally born in Kiev and started by a viking called Rurk . Now, as the Russian Army is poised on the borders of Ukraine and the Ukrainian Army is taking orders from the capitol in Kiev, both sides continue to play their roles in their long and history, which began, more or less with the Viking Rurik.

But only one nation is the true ancestor of the Kievan Rus kingdom and that is TO DAYS Ukrainians.

You and Russians need to study history and stop believe the falsification of Ukrainian and Russian history and look at the time line and facts..

UKRAINIAN NATION has been around since 898. In the 11th century, Kievan Rus' aka Ukraine was, geographically, the largest state in Europe Also Ukrainian Cossack had its own Rada (parliament / government) and was self governing until 1783 when Catharine sent her lover Potemkin to annex Cossack Ukrainian lands..

First of all Russia as a state never showed its ugly head to the world before 1721 when Peter proclaimed a new nation and a new capital for the new nation and he called it Russia...

Peter did this after Treaty of Frederiksborg (1720), and the Russo-Swedish Treaty of Nystad (1721) and after the battle of Poltava...

On July 27 every year Kyiv celebrates the anniversary of when Kyivan Rus was baptized by Prince Volodymyr the Great in 988.

In reaction, Vladimir Legoyda, head of the information department of the Russian Orthodox Church, criticized Ukraine’s attempts to call Prince Volodymyr the Great the “baptizer of Ukraine and a local leader.”

The medieval Principality of Moscow wouldn’t be founded until nearly 300 later. So if Kyiv was baptizes by Prince Volodymyr the Great in 988 and The medieval Principality of Moscow did not show its ugly head before 300 years later how can Moscow and Russia clam Ukraine and Kiev never existed hahahaha

Before Peter Moscow and Novgorod and other city's was principality's or city sates if you like and the most known was the Grand Duchy of Moscow From 1283–1547 Grand Principality of Moscow members citys of the Grand Principality was the citys of Novgorod, Moscow,rayzan ,suzdal ,vologoda..

http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchy_of_Moscow

1547–1721 Tsardom of Muscovy

In 1648 under the Tsardom of Muscovy the Ukrainian leader, Bohdan Khmelnytsky, offered to ally Ukraine with the Russian tsar, Aleksey I. Aleksey's acceptance of this offer, which was ratified in the Treaty of Pereyaslav in 1654 This was not Ukraine or Bohdan Khmelnytsky, offering it them self to Russia this was an agreement that both independent nations will go together and fight the Polish that was at the time invading Ukraine and Russia...and nothing more than that. In this agreement the Cossacks also accepted to look upon the tsar as the protecting monarch and did pay some small money for the help and alliance in fighting the Polish..

But this was not giving up Ukrainian lands to the tsar nor did they give up their own Cossacks Rada (parliament) or the right to self governance.. It was more a deal like Canada, Australia, Scotland, New Zealand ect ect ect has to day with England they look up on English monarch as their monarch But still are a independent nation and lands with self governance and their own parliaments and leaders of state..

Russian Empire 1721–1917 (when Peter proclaimed a new nation called Russia )

The Russian Empire (Pre-reform Russian orthography: Россійская Имперія, Modern Russian: Российская империя, translit: Rossiyskaya Imperiya) was a state that existed from 1721 until overthrown by the short-lived liberal February Revolution in 1917.

http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire

Also Ukrainian Cossack had its own Rada (parliament / government) and was self governing until 1783 when Catharine sent her lover Potemkin to annex Cossack Ukrainian lands..

http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_the_Great#Reign_.281762.E2.80.931796.29



The lands was under occupation until 1917 bolshevik revolution until 1991

So based on this facts the Russia state has only had annexed control in Ukraine for 134 years That is fare less then what all Russians think

In the 11th century, Kievan Rus' aka Ukraine was, geographically, the largest state in Europe, becoming known in the rest of Europe as Ruthenia (the Latin name for Rus'), especially for western principalities of The name "Ukraine", meaning "in-land" or "native-land" usually interpreted as "border-land", first appears in historical documents of 12th century and then on history maps of the 16th century period. Greater Rus'" was used to apply to all the lands ruled by Kyiv, including those that were not just Slavic, but also Uralic in the north-east portions of the state.

So Ukraine and Kyiv is from the 11th century and was self governing until 1783 when Catharine sent her lover Potemkin to annex Cossack Ukrainian lands. and it remand occupied until 1917

http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ukraine#Kievan_Rus.27

Ukraine has existed more or less as far back as kyiv has been a city..

Ukraine however has from time to time ,also maintained a semi-independent republic in Zaporozhia, and a colony on the Russian frontier in Sloboda Ukraine.

The Battle of Konotop in 1648 took place during the period of Ukrainian history that is generally referred to as the Ruin.

This was the time after the death of Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky, during which many power struggles within the Cossack elite took place. Arguably, these power struggles were instigated by The Grand Duchy of Moscow AKA tsardom of Moscow in an effort to undermine the authority of the Cossacks and self governed of the Ukrainian nation and the Ukrainian Cossack state The 1648 Ukrainian Cossack (Kozak) rebellion or Khmelnytsky Uprising, which started an era known as the Ruin The Cossack state, the Cossack Hetmanate, usually viewed as the modern Ukraine and this was why back in 1648 So how can you come up with Ukraine as a state first existed in 1918,__????

Together with a number of other battles between East Slavs, such as Battle of Orsha, the Konotop battle was with a few exceptions an abandoned topic in Russian Imperial and in Soviet historiography. This attitude towards this event is explained by the fact that it dispelled some Russian propaganda positions about the unity of East Slavs, in particular the ones about "eternal friendship of Russian and Ukrainian peoples" and about "natural desire of Ukrainians for union with Russia". For all the skill and the bravery of the Cossacks — especially those defending Konotop — it still remains a bitter victory. A victory that did not have any significant impact on the course of Ukrainian history, where fratricidal war of the Ruin and personal ambitions of treacherous hetmans prevailed. As such, the Konotop battle remains a classic example of the battle and war Russia lost when trying too assert its dominance over Ukraine

Ukraine has never really been Russian.

Any more than Norway is Swedish or Danish just because Norway was forcefully taking into an union with Sweden and Danmark and for some time under Swedish and Danish occupation and rule dose not make Norway into Swedish or Danish lands ...

Norway like Ukraine was just a politically and military occupied nation for some time in its history that's all..

Norway has been from time to time under Swedish and Danish occupation and even some Norwegian city's was built by Swedish and Danish occupier's.... But that doesn't mean that Sweden or Danmark owns Norway or that Norwegians are Swedish or Danish ANY MORE THEN Russia owns Ukraine and Ukrainians are Russians ....!!!

History of Norway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQQjBkiA_Wk


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Rob Hansen
No it is Pure Russianisem...

According to the famous historian Norman Davies, fascism, like communism, Russianisem, Putinisem, Naziissem ect ect can be defined by the following features:

* A pseudo-scientific conceptual basis (the belive of Russian 3rd Rom )

* A utopian goal (the Russiki Mir and Russians domanins of a new Russian world )

* A structure of a party-state (the restructure of the USSR borders )

* An autocratic leadership that demands complete devotion (Putinisem )

* Pervasive use of terror to prevent and eradicate dissent (East Ukraine , Syra chechnya, Moldova , Georgia, ect ect )

* Extensive and complex bureaucracy ( Using tax office to take out compatision )

* State propaganda and censorship (RT-News ect ect )

* Martial culture and aesthetics of force (The state and Russian belief in Russian superiority of Russian historical culture)

* Purposely induced fear of the ever-present external enemy (use state service like FSB, GRU to intimidate )

* Mentality of hate and intolerance (Anti othe ethnic grupes likeUkrainians, Muslims, Tatars , Kazakhstanis and others ect ect )

* Economic and mental collectivism (Putin has vast control over the gas and oil sectors and uses it as a political tool )

* Militarism (Rebuilding and promoting and using Military to attack and subdue the people like in the caucasus Chechnya ect ect )

* Messianism (Putin the half naked hours reading and bear wrestling superman is definitely believed by Russians to be a type of messiah, who acts as a savior, redeemer or liberator of a group of people.

* Contempt for liberal democracy and values (Putins regime is anti LGBT anti democracy Anti free press Anti free exspresion of art just look at-PussyRiot-and- Anna Politkovskaya ect ect )

* Moral nihilism ( is the meta-ethical view that nothing is intrinsically moral or immoral take a look how Russia lies about invading other nations and killing civilians and support of terrorism, and then turn abourd and say that it was to defend a grates good of Russia )

Clearly all of those are also characteristics of the Putin regime. Today in Russia, President Putin has the unquestionable control over Parliament, Government, courts, media and the most profitable sectors of the country's economy. To strengthen it further, he plans to reshuffle and consolidate the so-called "silovoy blok" – the repressive apparatus and intelligence service – by creating the new colossal iron-fist structure, the Ministry of the State Security.

So, we have every reason to declare that modern Russia is in fact, an authoritarian state with the genuine fascist elements, most prominently – the oppressive nature, the militarization of society, strict control over the mass media and complete disregard to human life

Russianisem=Putinisem,= the new fascism.

communism AND fascism is only 2 sides of the same coin ...

just like if you flip a coin you have 2 sides that first look diff. but it is still the same coin no matter how you look at it ,,,,

German national socialist workers party !!!! Or The Soviet Socialist Workers party are both fascist are both are totalitarian ..!!!

Is the same stuff !!!

USSR and-Nazi-same coine different sides

he same you can say about the evil of National Socialism also...that you say about communism..

The Real idea of National Socialism is also not preached ethnic or racial discrimination... But just look what the result is and you will see the truth..

Karl Marx ...The very cannibalism of the counterrevolution will convince the nations that there is only one way in which the murderous death agonies of the old society and the bloody birth throes of the new society can be shortened, simplified and concentrated, and that way is revolutionary terror.

So he will use terrorism on nations and society to get it to bend down to communisem !!!!

Karl Marx .... The classes and the races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1853/03/04.htm

So her Marx is saying that classes and the races that are weak must be removed to give way for communisem !! (in other worlds must be killed )

Karl Marx .... Everyone who knows anything of history also knows that great social revolutions are impossible without the feminine ferment. Social progress may be measured precisely by the social position of the fair-sex-(plain ones included).

Her Marx is Advocating the need for genocide anyone that dose not want communism !!

Friedrich Engels .... All the other large and small nationalities and peoples are destined to perish before long in the revolutionary world storm. For that reason they are now counter-revolutionary

Karl Marx .... Bourgeois society continuously brings forth the Jew from its own entrails.
Karl Marx as quoted in "Nationalism and Socialism: Marxist and Labor Theories of Nationalism to 1917", Horace B. Davis, New York: NY, Monthly Review Press (2009) p. 72. Original: Marx, “Zur Judenfrange” in "Werke", I, (1843) pp. 374-37

The Marxist Revolutionary-Holocaust-Live Free or Die
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dv5Sx00UiA

https://vimeo.com/73284941 the soviet story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3uFUxMwA1w&feature=related

Karl Marx .... On the Jewish Question (1843)

Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew -- not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew. ... What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money… Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man — and turns them into commodities. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.

IF YOU ASK ME THIS SOUNDS JUST LIKE SOMTHING HITLER WILL HAVE COME WITH BACK IN 1939 !!!

"The classes and the races too weak to master the new conditions of life must give way… They must perish in the revolutionary holocaust"
- Karl Marx ( Marx People’s Paper, April 16, 1856)

KARL MARX = EVIL COMMUNISM & SATANISM WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw8usovezuY

http://www.orgonelab.org/MarxEngelsQuotes.htm

Russia is a terrorist state that regrettably has a veto vote and seat in the UN ...

As the historiens say RuSSia was, lucky enough to inherit the vote... But what really happened was that Russia stole and manipulated it’s way into getting the position and did this in it’s typical Russian makavelian Kremlin way of doing things...

That is how the position that the Soviet Union had before them in the UN ended up inside Moscows pocket .. And just like they have stolen most things that is now Russian and then after that claim it to be always Russian, so now is the veto vote in the UN now Russian..

This bad move of letting RuSSian inherit that position of the soviet Union in the UN and giveing RuSSia the veto rights in the UN has infact ONLY made the UN impotent, inadequate and weak and nothing more than that... This has resulted in doing nothing good for the worlds stability... !

By giving the terrorist state Russia a say so in the UN forum, it has only gave a way for evil to extend itself into something good and make something good into a farce ...

The only thing that has come out if that blunder of giving away the veto right to Russia is that now RuSSia gets a carte blanche to stop/ block any reaction by the worlds community in combating evil that moscow wishes to make sure prevails .... (in other words Russian evil gets to flow freely in our world )

And therefor the Russian people beloved, terrorist state known as Russia , can continue to pollute the world and our environment with its presence / existence and with its evil deeds...

RUSSIA INHERIT USSR SEAT ON U.N.'S SECURITY COUNCIL
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/200308/RUSSIA-TO-INHERIT-USSR-SEAT-ON-UNS-SECURITY-COUNCIL.html?pg=all

Russian vetoes are putting UN security council's legitimacy at risk,

The body’s failure to act on Syria and Ukraine comes on top of wider criticism of its structure and the permanent members’ veto rights https://www.theguardian.com/wo...

Russia used its veto power in 2014 conflicts in Ukraine and Syria.
July 29, 2015: Russia vetoed a draft resolution seeking to set up an international criminal tribunal into the MH17 air disaster in Ukraine

May 22, 2014: China and Russia vetoed a resolution condemning the state of Syria

29 July 2015 etter dated 28 February 2014 from the Permanent Representative of Ukraine to the United Nations addressed to the President of the Security Council (S/2014/136). The letter is in regards to the Russian annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

8 July 2015 Russia Veto The situation in Bosnia and Herzegovina Vetoed the draft for Peace and Security

22 May 2014 Russia veto Middle East - Vetoed the draft for Peace and Security

15 March 2014 Russia veto etter dated 28 February 2014 from the Permanent Representative of Ukraine to the United Nations addressed to the President of the Security Council (S/2014/136). The letter is in regards to the Russian annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

19 July 2012 Russia veto Middle East - Vetoed the draft for Peace and Security

4 February 2012 Russia veto Middle East - Vetoed the draft for Peace and Security

4 October 2011 Russia veto Middle East -Vetoed the draft for Peace and Security

15 June 2009 Georgia Vetoed the draft for Peace and Security

11 July 2008 Vetoed the draft for Peace and Security- Africa (Zimbabwe)

12 January 2007 Myanmar Vetoed the draft for Peace and Security

21 April 2004 Cyprus Vetoed the draft for Peace and Security

2 December 1994 The situation in the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina Vetoed the draft for Peace and Security

11 May 1993 The situation in Cyprus Vetoed the draft for Peace and Security

And lets not forget the Russian controlled USSR vetos with that Russia has vetoed the UN 103 times almost 2 times more than all other put together...YES RUSSIA REALY WANTS WORLD PEACE !!!

'Russia is a Terrorist State': Lithuanian leader Grybauskaitė riles Russian Foreign Office
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkYbnpLUXvQ

Russia - Terrorist State
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsUMeKj_2QM

not just russias vetoes, also USA and the other permanent members (P5) UNSC.
Since 1900 Sykes Picot, treaty of sevres those 5 USA, russia, china and UK , France didn't bring the world to PEACE but to PIECES like I said many times.
#removevetorightsunsc

I keep a site on the 4 freedoms of FDR, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, January 6, 1941, which became the basis for the UN Charter.
As far as my research sofar has come, FDR didn't include any veto powers in that.
The League of Nations, predecessor of UN, where every member had a veto, proved vetopowers would cripple world peace, so don't blame UN, but just the P5 , permanent members of UNSC with vetopowers,
and ridicule the "crocodile" tears in UNSC meetings from ANY of those 5 members.

The ethnic Russian scum in the Donbas have never had Ukriane , Donbas people and / or land interest at hardt that ONLY and will ONLY ever have the interest of Russia as all Russians are always directly ot indirectly working for the Russkiy Mir AND THAY ARE ALWAYS DOING IT !!!!!

IT IS THIER TRUE RELIGION !!!!

THE RUSSKIY MIR IS WHAT THEY ALL DREAM FOR AND THE HIGH PRIEST OF THIS RELIGION IS PUTIN THEIR VATICAN IS CALLED THE RED SQUARE AND THEIR GOSPEL IS STALINISM AND GENOCIDE THEIR BIBLE IS RUSSIAN HISTORY AND IT IS AS FAKE AS ALL OTHER RELIGIONS AND FULL OF FANATICAL FOLLOWERS CALLED RUSSIAN PATRIOTS !!!!

Russians are either 1 of 3 things or some part of all of the above..

1. The Russian person is a supporter of The Russkie Mir and of the terrorist actions of Putin and therefore no friend of a free ukraine without moscow control ..

He therefore indirectly and / or directly SUPPORTS Putins terrorists controlled / hegemony and fake states put up by the Kremlin inside other nations. The hegemony puppet states like Crimea, Donbas Kharkov, Transnistria , South / North Ossetia and Abkhazia... are put up to forward the Russkie Mir Idea and ideology.. And on the off changes a Russian does not support Putin's terrorist states they will still look upon Kiev and Ukraine as historically Russia lands and therefore part of the Russkie Mir and other wise. And therefore they are no friend of Ukriane even if they claim to be and even if they think they are....

2. The Russian person is a Russian terrorist working for the russian terrorist regime and end game the Russkie Mir ether directly of indirectly and therefore they are no friend of Ukriane..

3. The Russian person is both a Russian and a terrorist and a supporter of the terrorist actions of Putin and therefore no friend of a free ukraine without moscow control and Ukriane under the Russkie Mir ..

So no matter what the Russian person is.... He is no friend but an enemy of a FREE ukraine and

            Mokoš (Old Russian Мокошь) is a Slavic goddess mentioned in the Primary Chronicle, . . Mokosh is the Great Mother, Mat Zemlya .

Mokoš was the only female deity whose idol was erected by Vladimir the Great in his Kiev sanctuary along with statues of other major gods (Perun, Hors, Dažbog, Stribog, and Simargl). She is Holy Mother Russia and as Moshka is the Hindu ideal of faith. Brahma has lived for 311 trillion years of 4 yuga and the world axis of the north and south poles gives Russia the oil wealth there.

Welk land heeft de meeste trekken van een fascistenstaat en de meeste neo-nazi's? RUSLAND,China en ook VS. NIET Oekraine!
Which countries looks most like a fasciststate and has most neo-nazi's?
Russia,USA, EUropean. Not Ukraine!

http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm
NL https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=en&tl=nl&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rense.com%2Fgeneral37%2Fchar.htm&edit-text= UKR https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=uk&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rense.com%2Fgeneral37%2Fchar.htm

http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/54/54_48-49.pdf


"The classes and the races too weak to master the new conditions of life must give way… They must perish in the revolutionary holocaust"
- Karl Marx ( Marx People’s Paper, April 16, 1856)


http://uatoday.tv/politics/refugees-as-weapon-putin-attacks-eu-with-migrants-propaganda-and-funding-extremists-821743.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/russiawarinukraine/comments/3pmnwq/the_migration_weapon_the_most_brilliant_of_all/?ref=search_posts
The migration weapon: The most brilliant of all time war against the West

Rob Hansen
Putin is using the Syrian refugees as an hybrid war tool ..

Also there is evidence that putin's FSB may be involved with Russian gangsters in the massive smuggling of refugees into the EU to make it unstable..

While Russia did not start the refugee crisis they may have found a way to exploit it to further their hybrid war against Europe. While the direct benefits of intervention in Syria are valuable to the anti-West coalition that Russia is forming, the far greater benefit could be a devastating flank attack on European unity.

Organized by the FSB Putin is dumping Muslim ''refugees'' on Norway as Norway is a schengen and NATO country Only 35 have come to Finland, even though Finland has a much longer border with Russia than Norway. But Finland is not a NATO country Norway is NATO and Schengen..

The practical arrangements of the refugee traffic to the Russian-Norwegian border is by the FSB in Murmansk, in partnership with organized criminal groups, the webiste https://www.aldrimer.no/ writes and citing norwegan intelligence sources who say that it is well known that the FSB, which is also responsible for Russian espionage against Norway, has close ties to the Russian mafia and other criminal groups.

In Russia, a very organized transport and support operation is established. In addition to human smuggling, there is also a very professional and extensive sale of bicycles to "refugees", given that it is not allowed to walk across the border. Norwegian or Russian citizens who drive refugees across the border could be punished.

The route to the Norwegian-Russian border is also being actively promoted on social media, writes the outlet.

And while Russian border guards require a Schengen visa to be let into Russia, there is no such requirement at the border to Norway - to seek asylum.

However, the "refugees" - mostly Afghanis, who have lived a long time in Russia - have to bicycle across the border, as walking is not allowed.

The bikes are left right after the border crossing into Norway, and the "refugees" are then free to seek asylum.
.
see link http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.2171/putin-is-dumping-muslim-refugees-on-norway.html

Europe, Syrian migrants reach Norway by bike via Russia helped by Russian border guards to get into schengen zone
see link

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-arctic-idUSKCN0R325N20150903

Norway demands answers from Moscow over Arctic migrant route
see link

http://www.euractiv.com/sections/justice-home-affairs/norway-demands-answers-moscow-over-arctic-migrant-route-319416



Vladimir Putin 'making refugee crisis worse to undermine Europe'
Barack Obama called Vladimir Putin on Sunday evening urging him to cease bombing 'moderate' rebels in Syria

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/barack-obama-urges-vladimir-putin-to-cease-bombing-moderate-rebels-in-syria-a6874531.html
President Vladimir Putin "wants to exacerbate the refugee crisis and use it as a weapon to divide the transatlantic alliance and undermine the European project."

The charge is that the Kremlin, acting in support of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's regime as well as Syrian Kurd militias, is intentionally creating a fresh, destabilizing flood of refugees in order to overwhelm Turkey and Europe.

Experts say Russia's intervention is the main cause of the displacement of more than half a million Syrians since September and expectations that 2016 will see even more Syrians flooding Europe than the record numbers seen in 2015.

Russia is "behaving like a terrorist organization and forcing civilians to flee" by carrying out air strikes "without any discrimination between civilians and soldiers, or children and the elderly." President Vladimir Putin "wants to exacerbate the refugee crisis and use it as a weapon to divide the transatlantic alliance and undermine the European project."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/barack-obama-urges-vladimir-putin-to-cease-bombing-moderate-rebels-in-syria-a6874531.html


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