Topic: Oorlog Rusland 27 april lendlease /ruswoii

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27042015

lendlease to Ukraine /rusWOII

http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_306481/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=mrIeW3qm
Putin accuses US of supporting separatists in Russia



De Russische burger Viktor Kadachnikov vraagt zich het volgende af:

“Why are Donetsk and Luhansk ‘Novorossiya,’ but when a passenger jet crashes in its territory, it is instantly transformed into Ukraine?”
“Mercenary activity is a crime in Russia. Why don’t ‘the militia men’–who come from Russia and are paid for combat–not fall under this provision of the law?”
“How can one explain the fact” that Moscow has brought criminal charges [exclusively] against Russian citizens who are fighting for Ukraine but not against Russians who are fighting in Ukraine against the Ukrainian government?
Do you consider the use by the [Russian] ‘militias’ of civilians as human shields something deserving of respect?
“The war is costing Ukraine several million dollars a day. It is logical to assume that it isn’t costing its opponent any less. Do you really think that Russia isn’t giving the so-called Novorossiya military and financial help?”
“Why is it that everywhere where the so-called militias ‘liberate,’ there is war? … Why are the so-called [Ukrainian] ‘punitive operations’ only where there are ‘militias’?”
“Why must Ukraine hand over to [Russian] band formations territories that legally belong to it? If the Ukrainian military doesn’t want to do this, does that make them punitive detachments?”
Given the number of times Vladimir Putin has changed his story on Crimea, “is it possible to believe him now when he asserts that there are no Russian forces in the Donbas? If so, then why?”
How would you react if some American said–as Igor “Strelkov” Girkin has–that without their invasion, nothing much would have occurred?
The Russian defense ministry has promised to provide five million rubles to the families of soldiers who “have died at the Ukrainian border. Are you not interested in why [the details of their deaths] are being hidden from you?”
Given that Moscow forcefully disperses opposition meetings and imprisons its participants on made-up charges, how do you think Vladimir Putin would react if some group seized administration buildings and proclaimed the creation of its own statehood on Russian territory? Would Putin take measures or perhaps sit down with the terrorists “to negotiate” as he demands that Kyiv do?
“Why does every Ukrainian patriot, who wears Ukrainian symbols, sings the Ukrainian hymn, supports the unity of his country and speaks against separatism automatically become a Banderite and fascist? Under what article of the [Russian Federation] criminal code?”
Are all pieces of evidence of the presence of Russian troops in Ukraine–even those offered by Russian soldiers themselves–forgeries produced in the West?
“Comrade Putin frequently has declared that Russia is not a side in the conflict and that he personally respects and supports the territorial integrity of Ukraine. If that is really so, then why hasn’t Russia closed the border from its side so that volunteers (and not only they) from the Russian Federation do not have the opportunity to cross it in order to fight against the territorial integrity of Ukraine?”
The Russian government last August explained the appearance of Russian troops in Ukraine by saying that they had crossed the border by mistake. “Do you really believe this? What would be your reaction if NATO soldiers ‘accidentally became confused’ somewhere near Vladivostok?”
“Why has Russia not once condemned the ‘Novorossiya’ militants and not once called on them to lay down their arms first? At the same time, officials of the Russian Federation have frequently called on Ukrainian soldiers to lay down their arms and leave the Ukrainian Donbas to the bandits. Why all [Russian] federal media gives positive coverage to only one side?”
How do you explain the fact that the forces of the ‘DNR’ and ‘LNR,’ hard-pressed as they were last August, suddenly “opened a new front in the direction of Mariupol and seized Novoazovsk? Who did this in fact: the forces of ‘the militias,’ whom the Ukrainian army had successfully contained or Russian soldiers without uniform markings who supposegdly weren’t there?”
Why does Belarus, a state aligned so “close to Russia, support the territorial integrity of Ukraine and not agree with Putin’s imperialist plans? Why does Lukashenka, Putin’s ally in the Customs Union believe that there is no fascism as a mass phenomenon in Ukraine and say that it is necessary to destroy the militants fighting against Ukraine?”
Do you believe Russian officials when they say that the 12 Pskov paratroopers did not die fighting in Ukraine but rather “by chance” died from heart attacks, suicides and accidents all at the same time?
“What are the ‘Novorossiya’ militants fighting for and what is the use of what they are doing?”

putin and his trolls



http://www.unian.info/world/1071578-russian-night-wolves-bikers-set-out-on-ride-across-europe-despite-polish-czech-travel-bans.html

http://www.unian.info/war/1071599-poroshenko-ukraine-strictly-observes-minsk-truce-army-not-to-attack-first.html

 have a better word for USA(president): lame duck, and EU/NATO hold back by that lame duck and Merkel Chamberlain or Ribbentrop, it seems with Clinton-russia connection revealed in "american interest".not to do more in Ukraine .and should be said as such..up till now when I call Merkel as described in german media its deleted..but I keep doing that, also in other media . the lame duck, sucks USA= U Stand ALONE ?
 Also the Normandy talks is that a replay of Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin talks., or is that the foreplay of niemals wieder..
 
 http://lifeinvest.com.ua/index.php/istoriya/4684-risunki-iz-gulaga-18-polnaya-versiya-slabonervnym-ne-smotret
 Communists' experiments with millions of people earlier:
PS drawings by former camp guard


http://bigstory.ap.org/urn:publicid:ap.org:ec1f5a16de054aed9d5225a084f6dc3b

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32473009 3 twerking girls arrested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPzNXZTUcdU   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFBLoiZcR2c


http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/04/26/ukraine-must-develop-its-own-myth-about-crimea-to-defeat-russias/

"The current war in Ukraine is “a battle between the Russian myth about Ukraine and the Ukrainian myth about itself,” a reflection of the fact that the contemporary world is among other things “a symbolic space” and that “one myth can be defeated only with the help of another myth,” according to Pavel Kazarin."
Of course it is the truth, however as the article points out, "A myth, he points out in “Ukrainskaya Pravda,” “is not a synonym for the word ‘invention.’” In classical Greece, it referred to the concept of how an individual viewed the world and his place in it. A myth is an idea “about the universe’s architecture, about past and future, about values and taboos.”
Nowhere is this problem more critical than in the case of Crimea where there is a well-articulated “Russian myth” but no Ukrainian one has appeared “up to now,” Kazarin says. And as a result, “Ukraine uses the Crimean Tatar one.”
“The Russian concept of Crimea” includes such things as the defense of Sevastopol, the “Crimean Riviera,” Pushkin, Admiral Wrangel, the withdrawal of the White Army to Bizerte in Tunisia, and the second defense of Sevastopol – all things which serve to justify a Russian status for the Ukrainian peninsula.
Some say that “the Russian Crimea myth is in fact ‘a Soviet myth’ both in terms of the time of its creation and its realization,” Kazarin says. “Yes, that is possible,” he says, but one thing is undeniable: “it exists,” and it serves Moscow’s purposes. There is no alternative Ukrainian myth; there is only the Crimean Tatar one, which Ukrainians use.
The Crimean Tatar myth about Crimea is well-developed: it involves the story of a motherland taken from its people, the mass deportation, and the destruction of its language and culture by Russian occupiers.
“The weak point of the Crimean Tatar myth is that it is not inclusive but exclusive,” Kazarin says. “It is defensive and directed at the preservation of the borders of a group and not on their broadening,” a pattern that reflects the experience of the Crimean Tatars after the return for deportation as a minority in their own land.
But that gives rise to a problem with this myth: “It is difficult to be part of it if you are not a Crimean Tatar, because this myth looks toward the establishment of a national-territorial autonomy, quotas in the offices of governance, and a system of preferences.” And because of that, “it helps mobilize not only its supporters but also its opponents.”
“Today,” Kazarin continues, “Ukraine ever more frequently uses precisely the Crimean Tatar myth,” largely because “over the last 20 years, a uniquely Ukrainian concept about the peninsula has not appeared.” Kyiv’s authority there is “legal from the point of view of law but it hasn’t been legitimized by mythology.”
Ukraine has “all the preconditions” necessary for the elaboration of its own myth about Crimea. It is simply the case, Kazarin says, that this myth won’t be about military conquest or about historical or religious issues but rather about economics, about Crimea as an economic hub for the Black Sea region, as Ukrainian economist Andrey Klimenko has suggested.
A Ukrainian myth so constructed, the Kyiv commentator says, would be inclusive and appropriate for all regardless of ethnicity. But so far, because “inertia has turned out to be strong,” Ukrainians have not advanced it. Many think they don’t have to because the Crimean Tatar myth justifies Kyiv’s position.
But Kyiv’s failure to advance its own myth, Kazarin suggests, opens the way for Moscow to push its own. And it is “characteristic” of the Ukrainian approach that “the law on the restoration of the rights of those deported on the basis of ethnicity” was adopted by the Verkhovna Rada only a month after the Russian Anschluss.
Russia briefly tried to “privatize the Crimean Tatar” mythology by giving their language official status, but that effort collapsed with Moscow’s moves against the ATR television channel and its attacks on activists.
“Someone may say that all this is secondary, that economics and the military define politics,” Kazarin says, but anyone who does is “wrong.” That is because the contemporary world is a symbolic space, and those who control the symbols often control the politics more than those with the arms or the money.
Ukrainians should reflect on this, Kazarin says, as well as on the fact that Moscow has defined Crimea as “’a Russian Jerusalem,’” something it has never said about the Donbas. And if they do, he suggests, they will want to articulate their own Crimea myth in order to do battle with and defeat Russia’s version.

The current war in Ukraine is “a battle between the Russian myth about Ukraine and the Ukrainian myth about itself,” a reflection of the fact that the contemporary world is among other things “a symbolic space” and that “one myth can be defeated only with the help of another myth,” according to Pavel Kazarin.
A myth, he points out in “Ukrainskaya Pravda,” “is not a synonym for the word ‘invention.’” In classical Greece, it referred to the concept of how an individual viewed the world and his place in it. A myth is an idea “about the universe’s architecture, about past and future, about values and taboos.”

http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2015/04/gesprek_over_opheffing_sanctie.html 
haha ruskrant, rus zegt t, voor eigen publiek

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/26/us-russia-putin-film-idUSKBN0NH0JD20150426 rus crimea history unjust, nope rus unjust
http://www.unian.info/politics/1071767-putin-about-crimea-we-will-go-to-the-very-end.html
to his end


http://www.unian.info/politics/1071610-norway-adds-more-russian-citizens-donbas-militants-on-its-sanction-list.html

http://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-threatens-nato-over-missile-shield-1429185058?mod=fox_australian

http://www.unian.info/world/1071727-putin-russia-has-got-own-geopolitical-interests.html#
russia won't get respect for next 100 years, russia ain't superpower like USSR and will know when ex-sovietstates hit back


http://www.unian.info/politics/1071821-slovakian-president-ukraine-should-buy-weapons-from-individual-countries-rather-than-from-eu-nato.html
on Jan 15, 2015 EU signed in fact a lend-lease agreement already, that allow countries to do just that without approval of EU/NATO.. so Poland can buy patriots and lendlease them to Ukraine (without approval needed from Obama/Merkel)
http://voxukraine.org/2015/03/05/how-ukraine-can-get-the-eu-lend-lease-going/
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P8-TA-2015-0011+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN

The EU parliament gave the Ukrainian army potentially billions in military aid.
It seems nobody really noticed but the EU parliament has voted that EU member states can deliver defensive weapons to Ukraine. The term defensive weapon leaves a lot of interpretation space. According to the US before they themselves entered WWII the term defensive weapons allowed delivery of combat planes, submarines and aircraft carriers to the UK
But far more important they allow the exact same formula the US used for the UK at the time. The resolution reads "there are now no objections, including legal restrictions, for Member States to provide defensive arms to Ukraine, which could be based on a ‘lend-lease scheme,” Put simply Ukraine can borrow the equipment and should return it after the war is over. In theory they only have to pay for what they lose. EU armies can just take it out of stock or say order surveillance equipment to secure their own military installations and deliver it for now to Ukraine to protect its borders. The biggest benefit is that it no longer requires the special budgets which were hard to get


Also not known Russia couldn't have got do far in WOII without the USA lendlease program, of which a big deal not is payed to USA so again is the present USA attitude all in the american interest? delivered to russia as lend lease for WOII
This was delivered to russia as lend lease for WOII
https://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/pearl/www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/lend.html
http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm
http://www.historynet.com/russias-life-saver-lend-lease-aid-to-the-ussr-in-world-war-ii-book-review.htm
http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/english/article/2010/05/20100518114619zjsredna0.3529736.html#axzz3YVC52DHR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/archives/worw.html
http://ww2-weapons.com/lend-lease-tanks-and-aircrafts/
http://www.quora.com/Has-Russia-paid-off-the-USSRs-Lend-Lease-debt
http://worldatwarmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/WW32-sample.pdf
http://www.4freerussia.org/freedom-of-speech-vs-propaganda

http://en.censor.net.ua/photo_news/333549/serviceman_of_special_forces_from_tambov_russia_showed_how_russians_are_disguised_as_miners_before_going



http://lifeinvest.com.ua/index.php/u-sviti/4980-srochno-kadyrov-nachal-peregovory-s-chechenskimi-povstantsami-vojna-s-rossiej-neizbezhna


http://www.newsweek.com/what-klitschkos-heavyweight-championship-means-ukrainians-325435

http://viche.net.ua/index.php/novini-ukrajinskoyu/politika/585-zhivishij-za-vsikh-zhivikh-zyuganov-porivnyav-lenina-z-isusom-a-srsr-z-tsarstvom-nebesnim-video
russia kingdom of heaven?? or hell :-)

RFE/RL - "With reporting by TASS, RIA, Rossia-1, and Interfax(!!):
"President" is one of several TV films feeding what critics of Putin say is a growing cult of personality created by state-controlled or loyal media outlets ...Putin's third term has been marked by a wave of anti-Western propaganda...
http://www.rferl.org/content/putin-film-protector-terrorists-the-west/26979415.html

http://www.unian.info/society/1071722-poroshenko-main-burden-of-chornobyl-disaster-falls-on-ukrainians.html

http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/04/27/ukraine-releases-own-version-of-ballad-of-the-green-berets/
ONE HUNDRED WARRIORS, the Ukrainian version of the Ballad of the Green Berets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=57&v=X2V8dpQQgMY


Natalia Arno:
Another good candidate to the Nemtsov list is Margarita Simonyan, the editor-of-chief of RT (former Russia Today), English-language television news network, which is a huge global propaganda machine of the Kremlin’s interests. Free Russia Foundation supports exiled State Duma deputy Ilya Ponomarev’s campaign to make RT required to become registered in the U.S. under FARA as a lobbyist group.
"We are against censorship, but the lecture by a genocide supporter is another story, in our opinion. Freedom is not only a right; it’s also a responsibility. It can’t be a “freedom” or a “human right” if it puts people in danger. When speech is dangerous or incites hatred or harm to people, as happened against Boris Nemtsov, it no longer is acceptable speech." Natalia Arno, President of Free Russia Foundation.
http://www.4freerussia.org/freedom-of-speech-vs-propaganda/


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32470726
Putin-backed bikers begin controversial ride to Berlin


As a former KGB officer and head of the KGB's successor agency, the FSB, Putin knows the value of information. His concept of the media, however, is a far cry from the First Amendment. For him, it's a simple transactional equation: Whoever owns the media controls what it says.
http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-vladimir-putin-consumes-and-controls-the-news-2015-4

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