Topic: Oorlog Rusland 8 april - referendum rus invasion 2017?

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http://nos.nl/artikel/2097705-europese-commissie-nee-heeft-geen-invloed-op-oekraine-verdrag.html
https://www.vn.nl/we-definitief-nee-derland-geworden/
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/08/world/europe/vladimir-putin-panama-papers-american-plot.html?smid=tw-nytimesworld&smtyp=cur&_r=0
http://www.jamestown.org/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=45283&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=7&cHash=43ef63e12e9779db0c43aece397ada29#.VwVpLBMrI_U
http://www.kyivpost.com/article/opinion/op-ed/paul-niland-thank-you-holland-411519.html

http://pauw.vara.nl/media/355659
  gezien initatiefnemers burgercomite aangaven dat t hen meer om EU zelf dan om oekraine ging, zei advocaat spong vanavond bij Pauw dat dat een misdrijf is, art.98 referendumwet, en dat er dan sprake is van een crimineel referendum, kan je dus evengoed zeggen  dat t daarme eook niet geldig is, bovendien 60% van 30% is dus maar 18% tegen, dus hoezo meerderheid van stemmen??? https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeenPeil  http://maxius.nl/wet-raadgevend-referendum/artikel98

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/04/06/Russia-Wants-Sell-Advanced-Fighter-Jets-Iran-and-US-Wants-Stop-It

http://www.volkskrant.nl/politiek/buitenlandse-media-hekelen-nee-kamp-oekraine-referendum~a4276375/

http://www.eurasianet.org/node/78136
new NATO? What new NATO? Russian media pushes back against the idea China is starting a new military bloc in Central Asia - without Moscow.

http://usuncut.com/world/pope-francis-calls-for-ending-tax-exempt-status-of-churches-that-dont-help-the-needy/

http://dailycaller.stfi.re/2016/04/06/wikileaks-goes-full-kremlin-accuses-us-and-soros-of-funding-putin-panama-papers-leak/?sf=bnellw
http://uk.reuters.com/article/panama-tax-ukraine-rothschild-idUKL5N17A24A
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/04/05/here-is-what-the-panama-papers-tell-us-about-the-president-of-ukraine/
http://www.unian.info/politics/1312805-happy-dutch-oblivious-to-ukraines-problems.html
http://www.thebarentsobserver.com/security/2016/04/russian-military-instructors-plan-land-svalbard#.VwYcQec0whs.twitter

https://www.facebook.com/423963464323231/videos/1110354615684109/
Heb je het te zien rennen.
Nationale verdiende bandurist capella oekraïne naam h. Mayborody - nalyvaymo broers, kryshtalevi cup
1 maart 2015 nationale philharmonic van oekraïne. Concert " wereld stil, zoete kant..."
Broeders, nalyvaymo kryshtalevi cup
Niet om te sabels mynaly, kogels
Onze hoofden!
Zo oekraïne povik niet huilde,
Voor onze glorie glorie, kozatsʹkaya
Povik nog niet klaar.
En kozak glorie kroviyu polyta,
Sichena shablyamy, rubana zwaard,*
Ook tranen vmyta.
Nalyvaymo broeders, terwijl je de kracht nog hebben,
Totdat de zon opkomt, terwijl aan de kant
Niet surmyly trompet.

http://kozak.co.ua/index.php/about/1585-polk-spetsnaza-beret
PECIAL FORCES REGIMENT TAKES IN THE RING AMBER REPUBLIC


My apologies as Dutch, to all Ukrainians everywhere, for the dumb Dutch politicians who made this dumb Dutch law, and let Kremlin (media) influence this Dutch referendum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmGxnMyuHhY&google_comment_id=z12lcjercmqjzzd1z22gibiilnmovnouy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmGxnMyuHhY&lc=z12lcjercmqjzzd1z22gibiilnmovnouy.1459975729627161

I write already more then 50 year in local/regional media and since 1996 on internet and seen as good analyst and problemsolver, data is everything. And am strong believer in referenda, but title/subject should be guided under strict rules, so it can't be viewed as a vote for or against another point. Initiators of this said it should be regarded as vote against EU, so under my rules, it should have been regareded as invalid at that time. A lot of people btw also call me a populist too :-) subjects can be explained to anyone in layman's verbs, but claims of any party in referenda that can be regarded as false or propaganda, should be excluded from the discussion by the overruling commissonor or referendum is considerd invalid.
In this case f.i. the fact that in east-Ukraine there is a civil war.
Worldwide sanctions would not be in place if that was true, instead a lot of russian military connection are sanctioned, which would not be, if it was a civil war.. So merely such a statement made in discussion by any party then referendum should be considerd invalid from that point on. That "sentence" would be a instrument to make any party in a referendum look more carefully at which statements they are willing to use to avoid that.
only loser sits in Kremlin with the other gremlins, that little dwarf, his dream to bring back USSR or even empire, turns out to be a bloody nightmare...In 10 years RF won't excist, and muscovites will be rightfully seen as the lower life forms of this planet. All other 84 parts of the unvoluntary federation, russia is afterall not a country,will expel and the deport the russians toward Muscovy...the parasite of the RF.
EU will reform in next 10 years into voluntary EF European federation, and will take all remaining ex-USSR and ex-RF countries in it, except Muscovy  and Serbia offcourse

 In 2009 guys inElsevier said that too, so being also a numbers guys  I looked for data, drew conclusion, and presented it to them it was a s much a surprise for me as them, but they couldn't refute it with sources for arguments.
I proved 15% above modal just contributed 1,32 billion net to state, while 85% up to modal level contributed 105 billion!
Even worse, in comparison to get at same level% 15% above modal should have contributed over 16 billion, so they payed 15 billion roughly too little since 1991, so last 25 years thats 375 billion, nearly the state decifit.
dutch:

Ik nam alle betaalde premies,betaalde inkomens- en loonbelasting, aftrekposten, dus belastingaftrek incl. HRA, weggezette ingehouden pensioenbijdragen waarover gene belasting is betaald
Ja hoogste inkomensgroepen betalen meeste bedragen, maar pakken ook meeste terug.
Zelfs nog erger: Je hoeft maar tot 33.000(modaal) premies te betalen maar max. uitkering is wel 50.000, DE reden waarom b.v. WAO, WW onbetaalbaar werd.

Helaas is Elsevier interface veranderd en zijn die oude discussies niet meer leesbaar zover ik weet, maar ook al die hotemoten konden er geen gat in schieten anders dan, ja HRA of pensioenaftrek mag je niet meerekenen, en je mag premies ook niet meerekenen.

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nederlands_referendum_over_het_Verdrag_tot_vaststelling_van_een_Grondwet_voor_Europa


http://www.businessinsider.com/george-friedman-russia-ready-to-invade-ukraine-again-by-2017-2016-4?IR=T

http://en.censor.net.ua/resonance/381624/inside_rebelheld_ukraines_palaces_of_propaganda

http://en.censor.net.ua/resonance/381743/mystery_of_wagners_identity_unfolded_he_is_russian_officer_and_head_of_large_private_military_company

http://en.censor.net.ua/resonance/8964/the_victory_of_ukraine

http://en.censor.net.ua/news/382227/eight_fighters_from_detained_gru_officer_yerofeyevs_group_perform_combat_missions_in_syria_skibitskyi

http://en.censor.net.ua/news/382267/yatseniuk_advocates_introduction_of_jury_trials_in_ukraine

http://112.international/conflict-in-eastern-ukraine/activity-of-russian-militants-in-the-ato-area-is-still-high-3721.html

http://www.unian.info/economics/1307518-weeks-balance-old-cabinet-lazy-rada-and-ridiculous-wages-of-soes-top-managers.html

http://www.unian.info/politics/1307478-poroshenko-predicts-win-in-dutch-vote-on-ukraine-pact-with-eu.html

http://www.unian.info/world/1307321-obama-madmen-must-not-be-allowed-to-get-nuclear-material-reuters.html

http://www.unian.info/economics/1306910-bloomberg-saudi-arabia-will-only-freeze-oil-production-if-iran-joins.html

http://www.unian.info/economics/1306812-transit-of-russian-gas-through-ukraine-up-by-42-in-march.html

http://uawire.org/news/media-zakharchenko-was-denied-entry-into-russia-using-his-dpr-passport
http://uawire.org/news/foreign-soldiers-who-fought-for-ukraine-abandoned-by-kiev

http://uawire.org/news/agricultural-production-in-crimea-decreased-by-almost-half-in-2015

http://uawire.org/news/criminal-proceedings-initiated-against-duma-deputy-who-is-critical-of-putin

http://uawire.org/news/clashes-reported-in-nagorno-karabakh
http://uawire.org/news/president-of-poland-russia-must-withdraw-from-crimea
http://uawire.org/news/israel-imposes-complete-economic-blockade-on-the-crimea

http://uawire.org/news/forbes-ukraine-poroshenko-s-assets-grew-by-100-million

http://uawire.org/news/putin-announces-military-conscription-for-155-000-russians

http://uawire.org/news/president-of-poland-russia-must-withdraw-from-crimea

http://uawire.org/news/ukraine-suspends-agreement-with-russia-on-the-protection-of-technical-information

http://uawire.org/news/poroshenko-affirms-conditions-for-elections-in-the-donbas

http://uawire.org/news/turkey-detains-suspected-killer-of-downed-russian-pilot

http://uawire.org/news/russia-intends-to-present-new-charges-against-director-of-the-library-of-ukrainian-literature

http://uawire.org/news/poroshenko-discussed-the-investment-issues-with-the-u-s-secretary-of-commerce

http://uawire.org/news/uk-foreign-minister-georgia-is-a-successful-model-in-the-region

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/2-april-at-drills-spring-thunder-ukrainian-military-working

http://www.handelvoorendooroekraine.nl/

http://euromaidanpress.com/longreads/dutch_business_in_ukraine/

http://www.trouw.nl/tr/nl/4500/Politiek/article/detail/4273252/2016/03/31/Initiatiefnemers-referendum-geven-verborgen-agenda-toe.dhtml

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0PF9mcLqwQ
to people of netherlands

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/03/29/un-says-israel-not-iran-north-korea-or-syria-worst-violator-human-rights/

https://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=19380
crime in ukraine

http://programma.vpro.nl/buitenhof/afleveringen/2016/buitenhof-3-april---minder-pensioen---cees-nooteboom.html
Buitenhof Ned.1 ,interview met de minister van Buitenlandse Zaken van Oekraïne Pavlo Klimkin. Over het referendum over het associatieverdrag met Oekraïne. Over de crisissituatie in zijn land en de relatie met het Rusland van Poetin.

Buitenhof Ned.1, interview with the Foreign Minister of Ukraine Pavlo Klimkin. On the referendum on the association agreement with Ukraine. On the crisis in his country and the relationship with Putin's Russia.


Harry Mens, Business Class op zondag, stemt JA
http://www.rtlxl.nl/#!/business-class-10877/59b69449-6948-3f34-b435-1d6d76b6df07


http://www.retecool.com/referendum-reporter-wat-vindt-de-oekrainse-politiek-van-het-associatieverdrag/

http://www.retecool.com/referendum-reporter-wat-heeft-europa-aan-oekraine-te-bieden/

http://russia.liveuamap.com/en/2016/3-april-central-moscow-heavy-fire-in-ministry-of-defense

http://russia.liveuamap.com/en/2016/2-april-aavst-venediktov-last-year-baku-spent-more-than-3

http://russia.liveuamap.com/en/2016/2-april-ruaf-vhf-traffic-in-baltic-sea-consistent-with-transport

http://russia.liveuamap.com/en/2016/1-april-wendi-deng-has-dinner-in-st-barts-after-its-reported

http://russia.liveuamap.com/en/2016/1-april-vladimir-karamurza-called-for-intl-oversight-of-nemtsov

http://russia.liveuamap.com/en/2016/1-april-moldova-summons-russian-ambassador-after-reports

http://russia.liveuamap.com/en/2016/1-april-moldova-summons-russian-ambassador-after-reports

http://russia.liveuamap.com/en/2016/1-april-russian-gov-channel-ntv-shown-sex-scene-with-presumambly

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/3-april-truck-with-7-russian-terrorists-exploded-on-a-mine

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/3-april-turkish-warships-arrived-at-odessa

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/3-april-antiukrainian-propaganda-in-the-netherlands-   telegraaf

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/3-april-militants-fired-25-times-upon-ukr-troops-over-last


http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/2-april-minister-of-internal-affairs-police-wont-follow-judge

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/2-april-ukrainian-minister-woods-near-chornobyl-that-were

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/2-april-lviv-holds-lviv-in-blue-flashmob-to-raise-awareness

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/2-april-horlivka-in-the-northwest-battle-started-you-can


http://uatoday.tv/politics/surge-in-fighting-near-eastern-ukrainian-town-of-maryinka-623577.html


http://uatoday.tv/politics/21-year-old-british-trained-ukrainian-infantryman-heads-to-eastern-ukraine-conflict-zone-623325.html

http://uatoday.tv/techandscience/lviv-aims-to-become-major-it-destination-in-eastern-europe-623127.html

http://uatoday.tv/politics/flare-up-in-armenian-azerbaijan-conflict-leaves-dozens-dead-on-both-sides-623484.html

http://uatoday.tv/politics/brussels-airport-partially-reopens-sunday-twelve-days-after-suicide-bombings-623535.html

http://uatoday.tv/politics/suspected-debris-from-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-found-on-mauritian-island-623542.html

http://uatoday.tv/politics/nyt-mikhail-lesin-s-strange-death-in-u-s-follows-a-fall-from-russia-s-elite-623523.html

http://uatoday.tv/politics/afp-new-skull-and-crossbones-signs-warn-of-mines-in-ukraine-623514.html

http://uatoday.tv/politics/full-ceasefire-19-ukrainian-servicemen-killed-128-wounded-in-march-623286.html

http://uatoday.tv/politics/poroshenko-says-the-global-community-has-to-do-more-to-address-aggression-from-russia-623185.html

http://uatoday.tv/society/annual-humour-festival-held-in-odesa-623318.html

http://uatoday.tv/society/dozens-attend-event-for-international-pillow-fight-day-in-ohio-623536.html

http://uatoday.tv/society/50-000-migrants-in-greece-in-turmoil-over-their-fate-as-eu-deal-set-to-come-into-effect-623519.html

http://uatoday.tv/society/arnold-schwarzenegger-opens-body-building-competition-in-rio-de-janeiro-623309.html

http://uatoday.tv/politics/lawyers-and-supporters-of-joaquin-el-chapo-guzman-say-he-is-subject-to-torture-in-jail-623306.html

http://uatoday.tv/politics/turks-in-seaside-town-protest-eu-turkey-migrants-return-deal-623285.html

http://uatoday.tv/politics/ceasefire-violations-raise-tensions-in-25-year-old-frozen-nagorno-karabakh-conflict-623264.html

http://en.sobytiya.info/opinion-crimea-will-turn-into-desert-in-some-2-or-3-years.html

http://en.sobytiya.info/chinese-cable-laying-machine-crashed-installing-energy-bridge-to-crimea.html

http://en.sobytiya.info/fsb-searched-the-ukrainian-society-prosvita-in-sevastopol.html

http://en.sobytiya.info/a-participant-of-euromaydan-face-20-years-of-imprisonment-in-crimea.html

http://www.intellinews.com/steadying-economy-leads-to-boost-in-russians-confidence-in-putin-and-country-poll-finds-94196/?source=russia

http://www.intellinews.com/trial-of-kazakh-activists-marks-new-era-in-crackdown-on-dissent-94089/?source=kazakhstan

http://www.intellinews.com/georgian-sex-video-scandal-shows-kgb-s-dirty-habits-are-hard-to-break-93075/?source=georgia

http://www.intellinews.com/turkey-others-exploit-russia-s-weakness-to-undermine-its-regional-ambitions-90439/?source=kyrgyzstan

http://www.intellinews.com/russian-economy-to-overcome-recession-in-four-years-ministry-says-94033/?source=russia

http://www.intellinews.com/lukashenko-leads-search-for-eu-cash-after-belarus-sanctions-are-lifted-91137/?source=belarus

http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/04/03/ukrainian-poet-and-musician-murdered-in-donetsk/

http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/04/02/91176/

Russia's new visa regime shows irrelevance of Minsk-2


http://www.rferl.org/content/letters-from-donbas-ukraine-part-seven/27650179.html

http://www.interpretermag.com/day-775/
http://www.interpretermag.com/the-daily-vertical-news-flash-the-truth-is-heard-on-russian-tv/
http://en.censor.net.ua/news/382388/occupants_started_fining_drivers_of_vehicles_with_ukrainian_plates_in_crimea

http://en.censor.net.ua/news/382417/yes_vote_in_dutch_referendum_wont_let_putin_to_fulfill_his_wish_for_corrupt_and_antieuropean_ukraine

http://www.interpretermag.com/the-morning-vertical-april-1-2016/ 
Website photo of student Alisa Kharcheva offering Putin a kitty
 
 http://112.international/conflict-in-eastern-ukraine/poroshenko-commented-on-the-new-york-times-article-about-corruption-in-ukraine-3742.html
 
 http://112.international/russia/sensational-investigation-in-corruption-around-vladimir-putin-expected-to-be-published-3737.html
 
 http://www.unian.info/politics/1307557-russia-goodbye.html
 
 http://www.unian.info/war/1307578-zaitseve-and-avdiyivka-remain-hot-spots-in-ato-zone-lysenko.html
 
 http://uawire.org/news/erdogan-expresses-support-for-azerbaijan-in-nagorno-karabakh-conflict
 
 http://uawire.org/news/azerbaijani-ambassador-in-russia-there-is-only-a-military-solution-to-the-nagorno-karabakh-conflict
 
 http://uawire.org/news/russian-propagandist-works-for-opponents-of-the-ukraine-association-agreement-in-the-netherlands
 
 Russisch propagandist werkt voor tegenstanders van de overeenkomst tussen Oekraïne en EU in Nederland

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=en&tl=nl&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fuawire.org%2Fnews%2Frussian-propagandist-works-for-opponents-of-the-ukraine-association-agreement-in-the-netherlands&edit-text=

http://www.interpretermag.com/day-774/


http://uawire.org/news/eu-to-provide-belarus-with-29-million-in-assistance

http://uawire.org/news/russia-is-no-longer-in-the-eu-s-top-three-trading-partners

http://uawire.org/news/belarus-hopes-russia-will-agree-to-simultaneously-raise-the-retirement-age-in-2017

http://uawire.org/news/ukraine-will-receive-a-tranche-of-one-billion-dollars-after-the-formation-of-the-government

http://uawire.org/news/kiev-promises-to-appoint-a-worthy-prosecutor-general

http://uawire.org/news/poroshenko-urges-the-un-to-investigate-torture-of-ukrainian-prisoners-in-russia

http://uawire.org/news/naftogaz-breaks-with-gazprom

http://uawire.org/news/ukraine-s-foreign-ministry-expresses-dissatisfaction-with-greek-businessman-s-visit-to-crimea

http://uawire.org/news/freight-traffic-between-poland-and-russia-may-be-suspended

http://www.newsweek.com/best-way-stop-putin-armed-ukraine-443176

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/2-april-promilitants-journalist-admitted-that-militants-hit


http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/12/14/dutch-business-waits-for-easier-cooperation-with-ukraine-ramaekers/#arvlbdata

http://www.radio1.nl/item/350886-Oekra%C3%AFense%20Vita%20Kovalenko%20over%20referendum.html

http://www.obzor.lt/news/n20244.html
The Seimas of Lithuania introduced a resolution on the preparations for the war with Russia

If you want peace, prepare for war   Si vis pacem, para bellum is a Latin adage translated as, "If you want peace, prepare for war". The adage was adapted from a statement found in Book 3 of Latin author Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus's tract De Re Militari (4th or 5th century),[1] although the idea it conveys is also present in earlier works, such as Plato's Nomoi (Laws).
(russian newspapers on lithuania=kremlinmedia)


Coat of arms of Ukraine on the Ukrainian coin (Kyiv Rus time during Volodymur power),the Kiyv region, now the capital of Ukraine was a great Orthodox Christian Empire for 400 years, from 882 AD to 1283 AD..
Any other questions of the roots of Ukraine?
https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/v/t1.0-9/10173585_624459580968970_1628739524_n.jpg?oh=3828962b534875c082b07c4a2e75e0b8&oe=577D739E


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bWLvHNCDO9g&feature=youtu.be
Help ons om mensenrechten te beschermen, stem voor op 6 april" zeggen Oekraiense mensenrechtenactivisten, vakbonden, minderheden en kwetsbare groepen. Het Associatieverdrag is voor hen een enorme steun in de rug voor het bevorderen en handhaven van mensenrechten in het land.


Zal het paleis van de sovjets
In moskou is gepland voor de uitvoering van het ontwerp van de beroemde architect b.m. iofana - "het paleis van de sovjets".
Het jaar 1930, zadumke reus bouw werd verondersteld om de plek van de explosie van de tempel van christus de verlosser, maar vandaag de tempel is hersteld en moeten een nieuwe speeltuin.
Volgens het ontwerp, de hoogte van het gebouw is 420 m - dit zal hem toestaan om te slagen voor een 381 meter lange wolkenkrabber in de empire state building in de verenigde staten.
Echter, dat laat de vraag open met het standbeeld van venchayushchey dit administratief gebouw. Op de hele bloederige, gepland voor het installeren van een 100 meter groot standbeeld vi lenin.
Wat zeg je ervan, vrienden?

https://www.facebook.com/yelena.yaburova/posts/548734918619544