Topic: Oorlog Rusland : 23 -24 februari

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23022015
http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2015/02/oekraine_haalt_zware_wapens_no.html
http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/binnenland/2015/02/veel_spullen_gevonden_op_rampp.html
http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.nl/p/mh17.html


door radioamateurs code opgevangen terrakotta (verbrande aarde) die gebruikt werd voor invasie en annexatie Crimea, nu Kharkiv, Mariupol?
https://twitter.com/L0gg0l/status/569635132371554305


http://uatoday.tv/politics/us-senator-mccain-says-france-and-germany-quot-legitimized-dismemberment-quot-of-ukraine-411135.html

http://uatoday.tv/politics/hungary-rsquo-s-orban-loses-supermajority-after-shock-by-election-defeat-411115.html
http://uatoday.tv/news/voice-of-america-report-to-allege-direct-kremlin-link-to-ukraine-invasion-411114.html

http://uatoday.tv/business/ukraine-s-energy-ministry-plans-to-close-12-state-mines-411041.html

http://uatoday.tv/geopolitics/steinmeier-says-attack-on-mariupol-would-be-explicit-violation-of-the-minsk-agreements-411151.html

http://uatoday.tv/news/reuters-putin-surveys-the-map-as-he-ponders-next-move-on-ukraine-411166.html

http://uatoday.tv/news/armoured-columns-again-cross-from-russia-into-ukraine-says-ukrainian-military-spokesman-411025.html

http://uatoday.tv/news/russia-stuffing-donbas-with-newest-weapons-411138.html

http://www.dw.de/ukrainian-army-refuses-to-start-withdrawing-heavy-weapons/a-18274346
http://www.dw.de/hungarian-prime-minister-viktor-orban-loses-super-majority-in-parliament/a-18273693
http://www.dw.de/opinion-diplomacy-has-reached-its-limits/a-18266217
http://www.dw.de/opinion-open-wounds-in-ukraine/a-18273853
http://www.dw.de/kharkiv-bombing-overshadows-maidan-anniversary-march-in-ukraine/a-18273512

http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.nl/2015/02/is-marcelvandenber-prorussian-troll.html#comment-form

So let me summarize for you what 'trolls' are and do.



    Their main goal is to blur the lines between truth and lies.
     
    They will endlessly argue without ever getting anywhere.
     
    If you don't want to argue endlessly with them, it means 'you don't have respect for somebody elses opinion'.
     
    They will NEVER get convinced of the truth not even when it is obvious.
     
    They try to discredit (Western) governments and their leaders.
     
    When opposed, they will try to discredit YOU, falsely accuse you without ever substantiating the claims. (Check the latest discussion between Graham Phillips and Eliot Higgins for example.)
     
    They MAY give real information, but it is mixed with disinfo. 100% pure disinfo is easy to discover. But REAL information mixed with disinfo is very hard to discover.
     
    They BLAME Ukraine for whatever.
     
    They will NEVER discredit Putin. Putin is a saviour.
     
    They are self-proclaimed experts on the area they are covering and often try to intimidate people with it to tip the discussion into their favor.

Dozens of such trolls are operating in EVERY European country in their respective native languages. And somehow they get paid for their services. Although it's possible that some are pro-Putin-killing-regime for other reasons, but that's hard to imagine.


 www.martinvrijland.nl
www.zaplog.nl
www.wanttoknow.nl
www.joostniemoller.nl
www.boublog.nl
www.klokkenluideronline.nl
www.nieuwemedianieuws.nl/
www.x andernieuws.nl    al geblokkeerd
another  for the list
http://fortruss.blogspot.nl/2015/02/korsun-massacre-anniversary-what-really.html


http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/gwentnews/11809471.Newport_company_say_they_have_found_evidence_of_Russian_soldiers_fighting_in_Ukraine_using_social_media_tool/?ref=twtrec

http://rbth.co.uk/news/2015/02/22/kiev_plans_to_launch_ukraine_tomorrow_international_tv_channel_in_contra_43929.html

http://rbth.com/news/2015/02/21/ukrainian_security_service_determines_over_100_russian_media_outlets_who_43918.html

http://rbth.com/news/2014/08/29/tv_main_source_of_info_for_most_russians_on_ukraine_events_over_half_bel_39406.html

Donetsk Leader: “First we will destroy Debaltseve pocket. Then we will capture Mariupol. Then we will throw our forces to Kharkiv" @b_judah
https://twitter.com/rConflictNews/status/569579862622646272?lang=it

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/02/21/257386/russian-news-report-ukraine-invasion.html
voor Yanakovich
http://www.interpretermag.com/putin-aide-linked-to-maidan-killings/

Bij Shirokino , in buurt Mariupol gebruikten de russen clustermunitie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL_javzCu_c

24022015


http://vpk-news.ru/sites/default/files/pdf/VPK_08_476.pdf
Gerasimov (Valery u weet wel Ruslands top militair aan t western front) meldde (dreigde) hier al mee in febr 2012.
In 2013 herhaalde hij dit met als vergelijk de "Arab spring". De suggestie dat je als groot land in kan grijpen in andere landen met "non lineaire militaire middelen".
-"The way that what purports to be an after-action take on the Arab Spring so closely maps across to what was done in Ukraine is striking. Presenting the Arab Spring–wrongly–as the results of covert Western operations allows Gerasimov the freedom to talk about what he wants to talk about: how Russia can subvert and destroy states without direct, overt and large-scale military intervention."
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Grappige is dat deze Gerasimov Doctrine dus Gorbatschov's "Sinatra Doctrine" voor de voormalige warschaupact landen te niet doet.
(Sinatra - MyWay voor de burgers en die landen).


 http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krim-Tataren
 
 At a “DPR” checkpoint in Kievskyi district in Donetsk city, the SMM on 22 February heard the sound of incoming and outgoing shelling and small-arms fire, assessed by the SMM to have emanated from the Donetsk airport, approximately two kilometres to the north. A “DPR” area commander at the checkpoint threatened to kill the SMM monitors. On the same day, an SMM Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) attempting to monitor compliance with the Minsk Package in the environs of the Donetsk airport was consistently jammed.
 http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/142351
 

from donetsk to mariupol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2_cUnVwhdU&app=desktop

http://www.stripes.com/news/us-inching-toward-sending-arms-to-ukraine-1.331182

Looking for polls regarding Eastern Ukraine
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fzn.ua%2FUKRAINE%2Fmneniya-i-vzglyady-zhiteley-yugo-vostoka-ukrainy-aprel-2014-143598_.html



The best of anti-Maidan rally in St. Petersburg, Russia: "Ukraine is captured by American soldiers and fascist junta, more than 100K killed, 3000 dismembered for organ transplant trade… Julia Timoshenko heads the organ trafficking movement”,“you should reproach Obama [for your pension problems]”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VosHHqPFqVU

People on the Russian anti-maidan rally speaking about Europe: "They rape dogs there".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrpETquMSyU&app=desktop

prorussian militants looting in Debaltseve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wck_pzeMkgY

Immigrants from Crimea picket the Russian Embassy and demand the release of the peninsula from the invaders

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L1yOjnaqDc

If the militants will go to Mariupol, We will impose new sanctions against Russia, - Cameron.
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fru.krymr.com%2Fcontent%2Farticle%2F26864873.html

Sergey Gromenko: Transfer of Crimea to Ukraine was not royal gift Khrushchev
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fru.krymr.com%2Fcontent%2Farticle%2F26864873.html

http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2015/02/poetin_oorlog_met_oekraine_nee.html

he zouden het dan toch russen zijn ipv plaatselijke "opstandelingen"

One of RUS backed militant group's leader complains Donbas men ain't willing to fight for DPR

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fglavred.info%2Fzhizn%2Fmotorola-zhaluetsya-chto-zhiteli-donbassa-ne-hotyat-voevat-v-ryadah-boevikov-a-oligarhi-vyvezli-kapitaly-303717.html


dan kan je beter naar deze kijken

http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.nl/2014/09/berkut-officers-killing-on-maidan-were.html

putin was invasie al van plan voor val Yanakovich
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/02/21/257386/russian-news-report-ukraine-invasion.html

over mh17
http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.nl/p/mh17.html

de samenstelling van het zgn. separatistenleger
http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.nl/2015/02/russia-fights-hybrid-war-with-hybrid.html

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/143100/peter-pomerantsev/unplugging-putin-tv#cid=soc-twitter-at-snapshot-unplugging_putin_tv-000000

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2F112.ua%2Fobshchestvo%2Fbatalon-kiev-1-zayavlyaet-o-zaderzhanii-8-fur-napravlyavshihsya-v-storonu-donecka-194789.html

http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-east-west-divide/25279292.html
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2010/0315/Ukrainian-vs.-Russian-language-two-tongues-divide-former-Soviet-republic

https://news.vice.com/article/russian-newspaper-to-release-document-that-allegedly-links-kremlin-to-ukraine-invasion?utm_source=vicenewstwitter

oops er zijn russische soldaten in Ukraine

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fyle.fi%2Fuutiset%2Fylen_kuvausryhma_kohtasi_venajan_sotilassaattueen_lahella_ukrainan_rajaa__katso_video%2F7824644&edit-text=