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Title: Re: Oorlog Rusland 17 30million $ reward MH17 -18-19-20- september
Post by: admin on September 17, 2014, 15:29:21 PM
17092014
http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2014/09/30_miljoen_voor_gouden_tip_mh1.html (http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2014/09/30_miljoen_voor_gouden_tip_mh1.html)  30 millon $ reward MH17 23 million Euro

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com.es/2014/09/malaysian-flight-mh17-crash-analysis-by.html (http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com.es/2014/09/malaysian-flight-mh17-crash-analysis-by.html) aluhoedje verklaring

http://www.wifka.de/wer-hat-mh17-abgeschossen-30-000-00000-mio-dollar-belohnung-fuer-hinweise-auf-die-taeter.html (http://www.wifka.de/wer-hat-mh17-abgeschossen-30-000-00000-mio-dollar-belohnung-fuer-hinweise-auf-die-taeter.html)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ee2_1411027762 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ee2_1411027762)

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/09/russia-now-applying-crimea-logic-to-the-baltics.html (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/09/russia-now-applying-crimea-logic-to-the-baltics.html)


18092014
Ukraine isn't west or nato fault
http://www.sptimes.ru/story/40762 (http://www.sptimes.ru/story/40762)

Putin angry we kunnen in 2 dagen Europa veroveren
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http://www.sptimes.ru/story/40762 (http://www.sptimes.ru/story/40762) ukraine isn't west fault

http://www.kijkmagazine.nl/artikel/marc-jansen/ (http://www.kijkmagazine.nl/artikel/marc-jansen/) WOIII over Ukraine, geef Putin z'n zin niet in Oost-Ukraine anders is einde zoek

http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2014/09/oekraine_krijgt_miljoenenhulp.html (http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2014/09/oekraine_krijgt_miljoenenhulp.html)

Rusland die journalisten dwars zit:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29249642 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29249642)   bbc team attscked in russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNB49pR-4oM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNB49pR-4oM)  euronews in ban over putler image, ukr bans 15 news incl. RT and Lifenews, last also blocked on youtube
Etnische zuiver op de Krim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtxwvY937r8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtxwvY937r8)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/18/ukraine-crisis-trade-idUSL6N0RJ1MH20140918 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/18/ukraine-crisis-trade-idUSL6N0RJ1MH20140918)

http://en.ria.ru/business/20140918/193052405/European-Parliament-Calls-For-Excluding-Russia-From-SWIFT-System.html (http://en.ria.ru/business/20140918/193052405/European-Parliament-Calls-For-Excluding-Russia-From-SWIFT-System.html)


19092014

Russia not quite what it seemed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97eu7IDSTbM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97eu7IDSTbM)
from east-ukraine to siberia ??? time to cool off...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrIIpkIKJCo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrIIpkIKJCo)



En de sancties tegen Rusland sorteren al effect en de paniek begint toe te slaan in het Kremlin.
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1) In de Russische krant Vedomosti http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/33610271/suverennyj-internet (http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/33610271/suverennyj-internet)
wordt besproken hoe Rusland zichzelf van het internet kan afsluiten. Plannetje van Poetin die merkt dat het verdoezelen van kapotgeschoten Russische soldaten in Oekraïne niet werkt.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2013/05/18/russias-internet-use-is-exploding/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2013/05/18/russias-internet-use-is-exploding/)

2) De Russen zijn zo bang voor kritiek geworden dat ze ALLE mediabedrijven willen controleren door buitenlandse investeerders een maximaal aandeel van 20% te geven http://izvestia.ru/news/576792 (http://izvestia.ru/news/576792)
Een beetje zelfbewuste staat kan wel tegen een stootje zou je zeggen.
3) Maar goed. Nieuws kun je in Rusland (zeker op Televisie) naar je eigen hand zetten. Oligarchen (en ook gewone mensen) zullen kijken naar hun bankrekening. Terwijl in de rest van de BRICS de vermogens van de rijkste mensen met procenten toenemen, nemen ze in Rusland met procenten af.
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-07-22/russias-megarich-are-losing-billions-in-putins-war (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-07-22/russias-megarich-are-losing-billions-in-putins-war)

maar
4) De gewone bevolking zal de hoogste prijs betalen. Al vanaf januari wordt er in Rusland gewaarschuwd voor stagflatie; een combinatie van oplopende werkloosheid én prijsstrijgingen http://www.businessinsider.sg/russian-economy-enters-stagflation-as-ukraine-sanctions-hit-2014-9/#.VBv09vl_t2Q (http://www.businessinsider.sg/russian-economy-enters-stagflation-as-ukraine-sanctions-hit-2014-9/#.VBv09vl_t2Q)
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Rusland lijkt met al die maatregelen (bovenstaande zijn van afgelopen week) een ontzettend onzeker land te zijn geworden. Iedere kritiek wordt de kiem in gesmoord, om de macht maar te kunnen consolideren. Uiteindelijk kun je oneindig politieke dissidenten op blijven sluiten, want als de bevolking daar en masse haar onwil over het zoveelste konvooi lijkenwagens en de stijgende prijzen laat blijken kan het de verhoudingen in de land nog wel eens verder op scherp zetten.

En om niet te vergeten: de promoties cq. vriendjespolitiek in de Russische politiek.
http://www.russianews.net/index.php/sid/225769875 (http://www.russianews.net/index.php/sid/225769875)
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/507411.html (http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/507411.html)


The "free" internet in Russai:

http://gizmodo.com/a-new-underwater-internet-cable-directly-connects-crime-1614596086 (http://gizmodo.com/a-new-underwater-internet-cable-directly-connects-crime-1614596086)

http://rt.com/politics/177248-russia-bloggers-law-restrictions/ (http://rt.com/politics/177248-russia-bloggers-law-restrictions/)

R]epresentatives have noted in press comments that the physical location of the web authors makes no difference for them – everyone writing in Russian and targeting Russian audience must comply with the rules or the access to their content would be blocked on the Russian territory.

zelfs ergens in het russisch schrijven betekent dus onderworpen aan Staatstoezicht Rusland...

http://rt.com/news/188960-internet-blackout-russia-counter/ (http://rt.com/news/188960-internet-blackout-russia-counter/)
Although I oppose present Russias way to reinstate Soviet-Union and in meantime hurt both Ukrainian AND RUSSIAN people, I also object for many years the grip the USA has on international organizations. Now it seems its the United Nations of the United States, perhaps it would be a far better idea to move that organization to the Netherlands, were already are more organization of that. Why Netherlands? Not just because I live there :-) but also cause FD Rossevelt descend from there, and his wife Eleanor Roosevelt, his wife, visited the Netherlands, She was befriended with dutch queen Juliana..And btw I also object to vetorights in the Security Council, which can be misused like both USA & Russia already do.. (first one in case of Israel), Perhaps a good idea would be to exclude a member in war (covert or not) from voting or vetoing? And yes all other international organizations like ICANN should be under UN, not under USA control.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2014/09/18/why-military-aid-to-ukraine-wont-accomplish-anything-in-one-chart/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2014/09/18/why-military-aid-to-ukraine-wont-accomplish-anything-in-one-chart/)

http://zaxid.net/news/showNews.do?ukrayina_mozhe_otrimati_bezvizoviy_rezhim_z_yes_u_travni_2015_roku&objectId=1323017 (http://zaxid.net/news/showNews.do?ukrayina_mozhe_otrimati_bezvizoviy_rezhim_z_yes_u_travni_2015_roku&objectId=1323017)
geen visas meer nodig voor EU voor ukrainiers
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Ukraine may get visa-free regime with the EU in May 2015
Community - Faith Karpinski, Today, 12:14 1204 1
Realistic weather getting Ukraine visa-free regime with the EU - in May 2015 the Eastern Partnership summit in Riga.

This said Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Lana Zerkal in an interview with " Ukrainian Truth ".

According to her, according to the plans of Ukraine, January 1, will start only start procedures for issuing biometric passports . A visa liberalization is not possible until the EU does not appreciate how the issue is how the system works and how protected passports serial production. This assessment takes time.

"So, in my opinion, realistic weather - getting a visa-free regime for the Eastern Partnership Summit in Riga in May 2015. But it will be possible provided that Ukraine fulfills all points of the plan, if the passport will be issued no problem, if the level of protection of personal data will be sufficient if we provide quality protection abroad, if the police will not comment, etc., "- said Lana mirror.

She added that the political will both in Ukraine and in the EU it is, but there is a question of costs and questions of war.

"Despite the open border in the area of ​​ATO, visa-free travel is possible. The EU should make sure that Ukrainian documents are only those who are entitled to it, - said Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs. - If we prove the correctness of their work, correct documentation of all data carrier passport - I think that the war will not be a hindrance. "

Lana Zerkal said that the main thing is that the EU had the feeling that no person who illegally went on Ukrainian territory from the east, can not get a Ukrainian passport and travel without visas to the EU.

As for funding, according to Zerkal, equipment for issuing biometric passports and border crossing points - the road thing.

"Even Georgians and Moldovans, with whom we consulted confirmed that the equipment cost per job is 5-6 thousand. Euros. Count how many of them only in one Boryspil. Now imagine - as all land border crossings. In Ukraine it comes across a furious figure, "- said the deputy minister.

Therefore, she added, initially, after Ukraine visa-free regime, the possible shortage of biometric passports.

"But I am sure the issue will solve the state. This is a very important social issue because we find donor funds or other sources that will increase the volume of issuing "- summarized Lana mirror.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/13/us/facing-perilous-fights-obama-turns-to-history-and-donors.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/13/us/facing-perilous-fights-obama-turns-to-history-and-donors.html?_r=0)
Expressing confidence that the United States was on "the right side of history" in this battle, Mr. Obama said the nation would also resist Russia's incursions in Ukraine, even though he noted that the United States has very little trade with Ukraine and "geopolitically, what happens in Ukraine doesn't pose a great threat to us."
No word on Budapest Memorandum?

Putin leert veel van Hitler o.a. z'n speeches, maar weet hij ook nog dat Hitler verloor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdG0XBrD2FQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdG0XBrD2FQ)

Niet alleen USA,UK en Rusland maar er zijn blijkbaar ook nog aparte overeenkomsten met China en Frankrijk?
Waarom horen we die ook niet?
Al blijft na bedreiging van Kazachstan door Putin(het was nooit een staat) China contacten onderhouden met Kyiv en gaat banden aan met aziatische republieken als Kzachstan e.d.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MmDFxNEqTc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MmDFxNEqTc)

http://news.sky.com/story/1338092/poland-sets-up-military-unit-with-ukraine (http://news.sky.com/story/1338092/poland-sets-up-military-unit-with-ukraine)

Waarom Ukraine weinig verwacht van Obama
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2573557/Flashback-Senator-Obama-pushed-destruction-15-000-TONS-ammunition-400-000-small-arms-1-000-anti-aircraft-missiles-Ukraine.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2573557/Flashback-Senator-Obama-pushed-destruction-15-000-TONS-ammunition-400-000-small-arms-1-000-anti-aircraft-missiles-Ukraine.html)

20092014

http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2014/09/rusland_geen_tegensancties.html (http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2014/09/rusland_geen_tegensancties.html)


http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2014/09/18/president-of-ukraine-tells-cnns-wolf-blitzer-that-u-s-has-refused-ukraines-request-for-weapons/ (http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2014/09/18/president-of-ukraine-tells-cnns-wolf-blitzer-that-u-s-has-refused-ukraines-request-for-weapons/)

http://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=70d87c59-a9ff-4e35-aee3-be0a8e9bc025 (http://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=70d87c59-a9ff-4e35-aee3-be0a8e9bc025)

Russian singer Zemfira singing a song "Let me go" by Ukrainian band in Ukrainian in central Moscow last night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E06blaxItXc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E06blaxItXc)

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/business/azeri-card-in-ukraines-gas-poker-365325.html (http://www.kyivpost.com/content/business/azeri-card-in-ukraines-gas-poker-365325.html)

http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/09/20/russian-anti-war-movement-officially-formed-in-moscow/ (http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/09/20/russian-anti-war-movement-officially-formed-in-moscow/)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2762590/Putin-unplug-Russia-internet-Russian-leader-introduce-draconian-measures-country-switch-emergencies.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2762590/Putin-unplug-Russia-internet-Russian-leader-introduce-draconian-measures-country-switch-emergencies.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline)

http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op-ed/anatole-kaletsky-why-this-ukraine-ceasefire-will-stick-365298.html (http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op-ed/anatole-kaletsky-why-this-ukraine-ceasefire-will-stick-365298.html)

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0HE20H20140919 (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0HE20H20140919) joint polish-lithuania-ukrainian army

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine-abroad/new-york-times-poland-says-russian-veto-should-be-limited-at-un-365193.html (http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine-abroad/new-york-times-poland-says-russian-veto-should-be-limited-at-un-365193.html)

http://achterdesamenleving.nl/frans-timmermans-liegt-heel-europa-voor-krijgt-promotie/#.VB3z4JR_uK9 (http://achterdesamenleving.nl/frans-timmermans-liegt-heel-europa-voor-krijgt-promotie/#.VB3z4JR_uK9)  aluhoedje
http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/energiebeleid/olie (http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/energiebeleid/olie)
http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2664/Nieuws/article/detail/3749074/2014/09/16/VS-gaan-weer-mensen-de-ruimte-in-brengen.dhtml (http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2664/Nieuws/article/detail/3749074/2014/09/16/VS-gaan-weer-mensen-de-ruimte-in-brengen.dhtml)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/24/us-ukraine-crisis-east-sanctions-factbox-idUSBREA2N0Q020140324 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/24/us-ukraine-crisis-east-sanctions-factbox-idUSBREA2N0Q020140324)
http://www.businessinsider.com/europe-country-dependence-on-russian-gas-2014-7 (http://www.businessinsider.com/europe-country-dependence-on-russian-gas-2014-7)

http://www.nu.nl/buitenland/3882939/russische-vliegtuigen-onderschept-in-verschillende-landen.html (http://www.nu.nl/buitenland/3882939/russische-vliegtuigen-onderschept-in-verschillende-landen.html)
http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2014/09/19/tsr-intv-kirby-us-canadian-jets-intercept-russian-planes.cnn.html (http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2014/09/19/tsr-intv-kirby-us-canadian-jets-intercept-russian-planes.cnn.html)
http://nos.nl/artikel/699854-bbcteam-aangevallen-in-rusland.html (http://nos.nl/artikel/699854-bbcteam-aangevallen-in-rusland.html)

http://www.sott.net/article/285938-Bye-Bye-Europe-hello-China-Russia-may-divert-Europes-gas-supplies-to-China (http://www.sott.net/article/285938-Bye-Bye-Europe-hello-China-Russia-may-divert-Europes-gas-supplies-to-China) aluhoedje

http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2014/09/bestand_oekraine_slechts_in_na.html (http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2014/09/bestand_oekraine_slechts_in_na.html)

http://www.powned.tv/2014/09/grote_explosie_militaire_fabri.html (http://www.powned.tv/2014/09/grote_explosie_militaire_fabri.html)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqt18AH1b50 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqt18AH1b50)

De grote brand bij Donetsk woedt volgens de nieuwssite Ostrov in een bedrijf dat eigendom is van het staatsbedrijf wapen- en munitiefabrikant UkrOboronProm. Er zijn twee grote explosies gemeld. De pro-Russische rebellen geven het leger de schuld, want dat zou de fabriek beschoten hebben. Volgens ooggetuigen, die dat melden op sociale media, is de eerste explosie in het bedrijf zelf ontstaan en is er geen oorzaak van buitenaf.

Inmiddels heeft het regionale kantoor van het ministerie van Noodsituaties in Donetsk ontkend dat er radio-actieve straling vrij is gekomen, zoals eveneens via de sociale media wordt gemeld. "Het stralingsniveau is hier normaal.'' Volgens dezelfde verklaring werd de eerste explosie veroorzaakt door een inslag van een raket of granaat. De tweede explosie kwam van munitie in de fabriek zelf.


http://nieuwsuitoekraine.blogspot.nl/2014/09/oorzaak-explosie-in-donetsk-van.html (http://nieuwsuitoekraine.blogspot.nl/2014/09/oorzaak-explosie-in-donetsk-van.html)