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Title: Oorlog Rusland 17 juni -- guncontrol
Post by: admin on June 17, 2016, 11:46:30 AM


http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/17-june-ukraine-is-furious-over-remarks-on-russia-by-the (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/17-june-ukraine-is-furious-over-remarks-on-russia-by-the)
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-un-idUSKCN0Z22E9 (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-un-idUSKCN0Z22E9)
Ukraine furious over remarks on Russia by U.N. chief Ban | Is UN really United Nations or just client-countries of USA,Russia,China,UK and France? If last, then we need a UNITED WORLD without those 5 vetorights !!!! #removevetorightsunsc

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-lavrov-considers-full-threemonth-observation-of-donbass (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-lavrov-considers-full-threemonth-observation-of-donbass)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-loading-of-fuel-by-westinghouse-started-at-zaporizhie (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-loading-of-fuel-by-westinghouse-started-at-zaporizhie)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-maryinkatrudovsky-heavy-fighting (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-maryinkatrudovsky-heavy-fighting)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-2-civilians-wounded-in-attack-on-maryinka-checkpoint (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-2-civilians-wounded-in-attack-on-maryinka-checkpoint)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-russian-forces-attacked-checkpoint-maryinka-with (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-russian-forces-attacked-checkpoint-maryinka-with)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-staromykhailivka-heavy-weapons (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-staromykhailivka-heavy-weapons)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-mayorsk-fighting-rpgs-machine-guns-mortars (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-mayorsk-fighting-rpgs-machine-guns-mortars)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/17-june-46-ceasefire-violations-on-17-of-june (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/17-june-46-ceasefire-violations-on-17-of-june)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/17-june-kyiv-mfa-deeply-shocked-by-the-horrific-murder-of (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/17-june-kyiv-mfa-deeply-shocked-by-the-horrific-murder-of)


http://www.theweek.com/articles/629815/how-alexander-hamilton-solved-americas-gun-problem--228-years-ago (http://www.theweek.com/articles/629815/how-alexander-hamilton-solved-americas-gun-problem--228-years-ago)
http://112.international/interview/historian-the-holocaust-is-ukrainian-issue-5998.html (http://112.international/interview/historian-the-holocaust-is-ukrainian-issue-5998.html)

http://uawire.org/news/chairman-of-the-verkhovna-rada-ukraine-is-counting-on-the-supply-of-weapons-from-the-west (http://uawire.org/news/chairman-of-the-verkhovna-rada-ukraine-is-counting-on-the-supply-of-weapons-from-the-west)
15 January 2015 :
The EU parliament gave the Ukrainian army potentially billions in military aid. It seems nobody really noticed but the EU parliament has voted that EU member states can deliver defensive weapons to Ukraine. The term defensive weapon leaves a lot of interpretation space. According to the US before they themselves entered WWII the term defensive weapons allowed delivery of combat planes, submarines and aircraft carriers to the UK But far more important they allow the exact same formula the US used for the UK at the time. The resolution reads "there are now no objections, including legal restrictions, for Member States to provide defensive arms to Ukraine, which could be based on a 'lend-lease scheme," Put simply Ukraine can borrow the equipment and should return it after the war is over. In theory they only have to pay for what they lose. EU armies can just take it out of stock or say order surveillance equipment to secure their own military installations and deliver it for now to Ukraine to protect its borders. The biggest benefit is that it no longer requires the special budgets which were hard to get. (btw also USA has similar plan)

https://www.reddit.com/r/russiawarinukraine/comments/4chmz5/how_ukraine_can_get_the_eu_defensive_weapons/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/russiawarinukraine/comments/4chmz5/how_ukraine_can_get_the_eu_defensive_weapons/)


http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-klintsy-russia-russian-troops-40km-away-from-belarus (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-klintsy-russia-russian-troops-40km-away-from-belarus)

Alexander Zakharchenko is in Moscow and saying surprisingly conciliatory things about Nadia Savchenko.
http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-alexander-zakharchenko-is-in-moscow-and-saying-surprisingly (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-alexander-zakharchenko-is-in-moscow-and-saying-surprisingly)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-junckereu-russia-sanctions-wont-be-lifted-until-minsk (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-junckereu-russia-sanctions-wont-be-lifted-until-minsk)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-col-motuzyanyk-today-in-the-morning-ua-border-guards (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-col-motuzyanyk-today-in-the-morning-ua-border-guards)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-transnistria-introduces-penal-liability-for-denying (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-transnistria-introduces-penal-liability-for-denying)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-zalharchenko-wants-to-talk-to-kyiv-residents-who (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-zalharchenko-wants-to-talk-to-kyiv-residents-who)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-sarkozi-in-stpetersburg-sooner-russian-sanctions (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-sarkozi-in-stpetersburg-sooner-russian-sanctions)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-independent-journo-talks-to-nikolai-rus-football (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-independent-journo-talks-to-nikolai-rus-football)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-sarkozy-the-prohibition-of-the-russian-language-in (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-sarkozy-the-prohibition-of-the-russian-language-in)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-ato-spox-enemy-snipers-most-active-in-mariupol-sector (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-ato-spox-enemy-snipers-most-active-in-mariupol-sector)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-ato-spox-russia-delivered-5-trucks-full-of-grad-missiles (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-ato-spox-russia-delivered-5-trucks-full-of-grad-missiles)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-ato-spox-russia-delivered-5-trucks-full-of-grad-missiles (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-ato-spox-russia-delivered-5-trucks-full-of-grad-missiles)

ATO spox: Russia delivered 5 trucks full of Grad missiles, 3 trucks with ammo and 3 more with fuel to Luhansk region

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-col-motuzyanyk-in-donetsk-region-ua-police-found (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-col-motuzyanyk-in-donetsk-region-ua-police-found)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-activists-dispersed-forum-of-exmembers-of-party-of (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-activists-dispersed-forum-of-exmembers-of-party-of)

http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-1st-channel-leak-by-informnapalm--russian-forces (http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-1st-channel-leak-by-informnapalm--russian-forces)

http://russia.liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-russia-and-belarus-military-inspectors-at-anakonda16 (http://russia.liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-russia-and-belarus-military-inspectors-at-anakonda16)

http://europe.liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-drug-testers-routinely-obstructed-by-russian-athletes (http://europe.liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-drug-testers-routinely-obstructed-by-russian-athletes)

http://europe.liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-fsb-intimidated-antidoping-experts-and-one-russian (http://europe.liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-fsb-intimidated-antidoping-experts-and-one-russian)

http://europe.liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-the-authorities-of-st-petersburg-signed-a-decree (http://europe.liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-the-authorities-of-st-petersburg-signed-a-decree)

http://europe.liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-after-a-night-of-skirmishes-in-lille-schools-in-lens (http://europe.liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-after-a-night-of-skirmishes-in-lille-schools-in-lens)

http://europe.liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-sarkozy-mr-putins-authority-is-great-his-place-is (http://europe.liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-june-sarkozy-mr-putins-authority-is-great-his-place-is)

http://europe.liveuamap.com/en/2016/15-june-lille-police-preparing-to-take-stronger-measures (http://europe.liveuamap.com/en/2016/15-june-lille-police-preparing-to-take-stronger-measures)

http://europe.liveuamap.com/en/2016/15-june-cafe-owners-have-locked-up-their-chairs-in-lille (http://europe.liveuamap.com/en/2016/15-june-cafe-owners-have-locked-up-their-chairs-in-lille)

http://europe.liveuamap.com/en/2016/15-june-arsenal-of-weapons-was-found-in-sergiev-pasad (http://europe.liveuamap.com/en/2016/15-june-arsenal-of-weapons-was-found-in-sergiev-pasad)


http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/06/13/a-short-history-of-the-ukrainian-greeting-slava-ukrayini/ (http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/06/13/a-short-history-of-the-ukrainian-greeting-slava-ukrayini/)

http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/06/23/rossolinski-liebe-continues-soviet-legacy-of-vilifying-ukrainian-nationalism/ (http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/06/23/rossolinski-liebe-continues-soviet-legacy-of-vilifying-ukrainian-nationalism/)

http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/07/04/the-black-hundreds-the-most-important-russian-group-now-active-in-ukraine/ (http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/07/04/the-black-hundreds-the-most-important-russian-group-now-active-in-ukraine/)

http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/11/23/europe-hasnt-rejected-russia-russia-has-rejected-europe-shevtsova-says/ (http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/11/23/europe-hasnt-rejected-russia-russia-has-rejected-europe-shevtsova-says/)

http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/11/24/russia-with-current-borders-and-values-will-remain-a-threat-to-ukraine-europe-and-itself-portnikov-says/ (http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/11/24/russia-with-current-borders-and-values-will-remain-a-threat-to-ukraine-europe-and-itself-portnikov-says/)

http://uatoday.tv/society/wild-june-weather-lutsk-gets-hit-with-heavy-rain-and-hail-670319.html (http://uatoday.tv/society/wild-june-weather-lutsk-gets-hit-with-heavy-rain-and-hail-670319.html)

http://uatoday.tv/opinion/euro-16-france-has-poor-defence-germany-is-the-big-favourite-ukrainian-football-expert-669921.html (http://uatoday.tv/opinion/euro-16-france-has-poor-defence-germany-is-the-big-favourite-ukrainian-football-expert-669921.html)

http://uatoday.tv/society/deadly-accident-at-a-military-training-ground-in-ukraine-670334.html (http://uatoday.tv/society/deadly-accident-at-a-military-training-ground-in-ukraine-670334.html)

http://uatoday.tv/crime/police-kills-five-suspects-in-kazakhstan-terrorist-attacks-670301.html (http://uatoday.tv/crime/police-kills-five-suspects-in-kazakhstan-terrorist-attacks-670301.html)

http://uatoday.tv/politics/poll-almost-44-of-ukrainians-support-idea-of-nato-membership-670121.html (http://uatoday.tv/politics/poll-almost-44-of-ukrainians-support-idea-of-nato-membership-670121.html)

http://uatoday.tv/politics/radio-liberty-white-house-aide-says-deal-to-end-ukraine-conflict-possible-by-year-s-end-670175.html (http://uatoday.tv/politics/radio-liberty-white-house-aide-says-deal-to-end-ukraine-conflict-possible-by-year-s-end-670175.html)

http://uatoday.tv/politics/wsj-georgia-kosovo-ukraine-s-visa-free-access-to-e-u-delayed-670163.html (http://uatoday.tv/politics/wsj-georgia-kosovo-ukraine-s-visa-free-access-to-e-u-delayed-670163.html)

http://uatoday.tv/politics/russia-increases-presence-near-ukraine-s-borders-670241.html (http://uatoday.tv/politics/russia-increases-presence-near-ukraine-s-borders-670241.html)

http://uatoday.tv/politics/rfe-rl-georgian-officials-call-for-bold-action-on-nato-membership-669783.html (http://uatoday.tv/politics/rfe-rl-georgian-officials-call-for-bold-action-on-nato-membership-669783.html)

http://uatoday.tv/politics/bloomberg-ukraine-s-gontareva-pledges-rate-cuts-sees-2016-credit-revival-669792.html (http://uatoday.tv/politics/bloomberg-ukraine-s-gontareva-pledges-rate-cuts-sees-2016-credit-revival-669792.html)

http://uatoday.tv/politics/carnegie-europe-the-sorry-state-of-europe-before-the-british-referendum-669822.html (http://uatoday.tv/politics/carnegie-europe-the-sorry-state-of-europe-before-the-british-referendum-669822.html)
EU isn't Europe, and Europe isn't EU, most countries outside EU do better

http://uatoday.tv/politics/delay-in-visa-free-regime-for-ukraine-causes-concern-to-e-u-states-669849.html (http://uatoday.tv/politics/delay-in-visa-free-regime-for-ukraine-causes-concern-to-e-u-states-669849.html)

http://uatoday.tv/politics/anaconda-2016-nato-s-massive-military-drills-underway-in-poland-photos-670343.html (http://uatoday.tv/politics/anaconda-2016-nato-s-massive-military-drills-underway-in-poland-photos-670343.html)

http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-belarus-talks-food-imports-gas-prices/27787028.html (http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-belarus-talks-food-imports-gas-prices/27787028.html)

http://www.khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1465389006 (http://www.khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1465389006)
Russian lawyers face reprisals for defending tortured Ukrainian prisoners

Crimean Court refuses to find Crimean Tatar remembrance unlawful
http://www.khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1465314697 (http://www.khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1465314697)

http://www.khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1465337760 (http://www.khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1465337760)
Chafing at sanctions, Moscow pokes and pries at EU unity

http://www.khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1464092970 (http://www.khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1464092970)
Putin makes it easier to brand any group in Russia or occupied Crimea a 'foreign agent'

http://www.khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1465424950 (http://www.khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1465424950)
Pavlensky says he will not pay fine after his unexpected release

http://www.khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1462928536 (http://www.khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1462928536)
Decommunization' in Ukraine Carried Out Using Communist Methods

http://www.khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1465479398 (http://www.khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1465479398)
Putin's Kerch Bridge to Crimea: No Money, Dodgy Insurance & No Accountability

http://www.khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1465507868 (http://www.khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1465507868)
Ukrainian Gets 10-Year Sentence in Russia's Revenge for Maidan

http://uatoday.tv/politics/france-has-forgotten-europe-s-indecisiveness-during-georgian-war-led-to-ukraine-conflict-671857.html (http://uatoday.tv/politics/france-has-forgotten-europe-s-indecisiveness-during-georgian-war-led-to-ukraine-conflict-671857.html)

http://uatoday.tv/society/organisers-of-kyiv-s-equality-march-get-high-praise-671966.html (http://uatoday.tv/society/organisers-of-kyiv-s-equality-march-get-high-praise-671966.html)

http://uatoday.tv/society/ukrainians-gather-in-maidan-to-remember-fallen-soldiers-671934.html (http://uatoday.tv/society/ukrainians-gather-in-maidan-to-remember-fallen-soldiers-671934.html)

http://uatoday.tv/society/19-ukrainian-soldiers-injured-at-the-front-transported-to-dnipro-hospitals-671920.html (http://uatoday.tv/society/19-ukrainian-soldiers-injured-at-the-front-transported-to-dnipro-hospitals-671920.html)

http://uatoday.tv/sport/euro-2016-fever-sweeps-across-ukraine-672029.html (http://uatoday.tv/sport/euro-2016-fever-sweeps-across-ukraine-672029.html)

http://uatoday.tv/society/kyiv-hosts-second-annual-night-marathon-672044.html (http://uatoday.tv/society/kyiv-hosts-second-annual-night-marathon-672044.html)

http://uatoday.tv/politics/savchenko-prepares-for-lithuania-visit-671878.html (http://uatoday.tv/politics/savchenko-prepares-for-lithuania-visit-671878.html)

http://uatoday.tv/politics/u-s-a-and-russia-aren-t-eager-to-reduce-nuclear-weapons-671911.html (http://uatoday.tv/politics/u-s-a-and-russia-aren-t-eager-to-reduce-nuclear-weapons-671911.html)

http://112.international/opinion/harsh-reality-of-ukraines-disappearing-villages-5925.html (http://112.international/opinion/harsh-reality-of-ukraines-disappearing-villages-5925.html)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/06/13/bbc-commentator-alan-green-to-boycott-russia-world-cup/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/06/13/bbc-commentator-alan-green-to-boycott-russia-world-cup/)

http://uatoday.tv/news/the-guardian-russia-will-not-attend-historic-meeting-of-world-s-orthodox-churches-672308.html (http://uatoday.tv/news/the-guardian-russia-will-not-attend-historic-meeting-of-world-s-orthodox-churches-672308.html)

http://uatoday.tv/entertainment/meduza-vladimir-putin-endorses-a-4-billion-dollar-disneyland-clone-on-moscow-s-outskirts-671928.html (http://uatoday.tv/entertainment/meduza-vladimir-putin-endorses-a-4-billion-dollar-disneyland-clone-on-moscow-s-outskirts-671928.html)

http://uatoday.tv/politics/venice-commission-on-ukraine-s-party-dictatorship-law-contrary-to-int-l-standards-672329.html (http://uatoday.tv/politics/venice-commission-on-ukraine-s-party-dictatorship-law-contrary-to-int-l-standards-672329.html)

http://uatoday.tv/business/ukraine-offers-korea-multifaceted-cooperation-672381.html (http://uatoday.tv/business/ukraine-offers-korea-multifaceted-cooperation-672381.html)

http://uatoday.tv/politics/dw-nato-chief-announces-battalion-deployments-to-baltic-states-and-poland-672418.html (http://uatoday.tv/politics/dw-nato-chief-announces-battalion-deployments-to-baltic-states-and-poland-672418.html)

http://uatoday.tv/politics/ukrainian-political-prisoners-may-be-swapped-on-june-media-672419.html (http://uatoday.tv/politics/ukrainian-political-prisoners-may-be-swapped-on-june-media-672419.html)

http://en.sobytiya.info/crimean-court-charged-a-maidan-participant-with-10-years-sentence.html (http://en.sobytiya.info/crimean-court-charged-a-maidan-participant-with-10-years-sentence.html)

http://en.sobytiya.info/savchenko-it-was-necessary-to-defend-crimea-to-avoid-war-in-donbass.html (http://en.sobytiya.info/savchenko-it-was-necessary-to-defend-crimea-to-avoid-war-in-donbass.html)
She's wrong, declassified Ukrainian GOVT. documents show both USA- Germany urged Ukraine NOT to interviene when russia annexed Crimea.
Much worse data from same dates, showed USA withdrew all its warships Black Sea before and after annexation, which could have been used as deterrent to keep Russia at bay and block Crimea (together with Ukraine navy, which should have at first sight have moved their vessels out of Crimea)
At the time Ukraine army was a mere 5000.

What Ukraine should have done was when "separatist" appeared, to guard/block east-Ukraine border and mop those separatists up, which last they did but they did not contain them.
One error I blame Poroshenko/Ukraine generals for was to mop those russian proxies from Donetsk so they only could take portion of Luhansk.

Its know for most of goods Crimea is dependent of Ukraine, so a blockade and presence USA navy would have made annexation go void.
USA IMHO KNEW of coming annexation and choose to sneak away from Black Sea, by that violating Budapest Memorandum.

http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/06/13/orthodox-world-heading-toward-a-new-schism/ (http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/06/13/orthodox-world-heading-toward-a-new-schism/)

http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/06/14/fewer-russians-but-more-russian-speakers-the-changing-face-of-russia/ (http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/06/14/fewer-russians-but-more-russian-speakers-the-changing-face-of-russia/)
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/12/23/moscows-library-of-ukrainian-literature-to-become-multi-media-center-of-eastern-slavic-peoples/ (http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/12/23/moscows-library-of-ukrainian-literature-to-become-multi-media-center-of-eastern-slavic-peoples/)

http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/06/14/life-in-the-dnr-lining-up-at-the-soup-kitchen/ (http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/06/14/life-in-the-dnr-lining-up-at-the-soup-kitchen/)

http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/06/14/will-history-repeat-itself-crimea-a-federal-national-and-cultural-ghetto-for-the-crimean-tatars/ (http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/06/14/will-history-repeat-itself-crimea-a-federal-national-and-cultural-ghetto-for-the-crimean-tatars/)

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