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Title: Oorlog Rusland 5 december It's MUSCOVY not russia
Post by: admin on December 04, 2016, 16:27:40 PM
It's muscovy not russia


https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/a-newbie-facing-the-mongol-hordes-muscowy.716740/ (https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/a-newbie-facing-the-mongol-hordes-muscowy.716740/)

http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/10/08/lukashenko-declares-russia-must-return-almost-all-its-territory-to-kazakhstan-and-mongolia/ (http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/10/08/lukashenko-declares-russia-must-return-almost-all-its-territory-to-kazakhstan-and-mongolia/)
muscovy

http://www.eu4wiki.com/Novgorod (http://www.eu4wiki.com/Novgorod)
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/a-newbie-facing-the-mongol-hordes-muscowy.716740/ (https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/a-newbie-facing-the-mongol-hordes-muscowy.716740/)


Moscow pro-putin analyst: Britain's support for Poland, not Molotov-Ribbentrop, caused WW2, and its backing of Ukraine could trigger WW3 | (kremlinmedia) nope, invasion Muscovy("russia") in Ukraine early 2014, STARTED WW3 !
https://www.reddit.com/r/russiawarinukraine/comments/5gff3d/moscow_proputin_analyst_britains_support_for/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/russiawarinukraine/comments/5gff3d/moscow_proputin_analyst_britains_support_for/)
Agree with you, I hesitate to share this to be honest.
I know most media try to hear both sides on all subjects, but if one side in a "conflict" being agressor, NOT uses facts, only propaganda against the victim, and accuses ONLY victim of use propaganda, media should use common sense and NOT give the agressor propaganda side a platform.
FACTS should be guiding line for media and everyone else, not propaganda or FAKE news/facts.
Thats why I always keep a keen eye on kremlinmedia/fake news/facts not only from Muscovy/"russia", but all (r)us-eu media.
Kremlinmedia I said in early 2014 you should not view,listen and if you do, just believe the opposite, you can't go wrong with that, EVER!

It's known from facts in media both Kremin and EU spend billions on propaganda for self-survival, Kremlin the most, they also have the socalled paid Trolls from Olgino https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolls_from_Olgino (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolls_from_Olgino)
who not only are active in (socia) media but a lot are also rewriting history and trying to make Wikipedia, in regard to (history) former soviet countries, a Russipedia 2.0..
https://www.reddit.com/r/russiawarinukraine/comments/37tryg/muscovy_the_name_of_the_grand_duchy_of_moscow/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/russiawarinukraine/comments/37tryg/muscovy_the_name_of_the_grand_duchy_of_moscow/)

Perhaps euromaidanpress should investigate  THAT instead of giving kremlinmedia a platform, just my 2 cents..(you have from a former contact my emailadress)

Regarding this article, like I said , I hesitate to share it, added in title pro-putin between Moscow and analyst, and at end added also (kremlinmedia!)


When I shared this with (kremlinmedia) at end, saw tweet started with : Ukraine-Russia war, while in effect it's "russia" war against Ukraine !
Btw I use "russia" cause name rus belongs to Ukraine and not to Muscovy.
As Lukashenko said in 2014, Muscovy must give back most of RF to Kazakhstan and Mongolia.

It are soldiers and mercs (mercanaries) from "russia"/Muscovy, so (wannebe) Muscovites


where are ukraine's heroes buried
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpTH7KJFum4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpTH7KJFum4)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLbsLZ1iX68 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLbsLZ1iX68)
Vladimir Putin appears to glorify its genocidal past


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