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Title: oorlog rusland 10 januari
Post by: admin on January 10, 2020, 10:18:02 AM

https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/how-ukrainian-plane-crash-went-from-engine-failure-to-iranian-attack.html?cn-reloaded=1 (https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/how-ukrainian-plane-crash-went-from-engine-failure-to-iranian-attack.html?cn-reloaded=1)
evidence=facts before mediahype of hypemedia

https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/Middle-East/The-Real-Reason-The-US-Is-Interested-In-Iran.html (https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/Middle-East/The-Real-Reason-The-US-Is-Interested-In-Iran.html)

?? was it a USA missile to blame Iran, and get allies for a war against Iran??
Lucky for Iran they don't have WOMD like Iraq after 9/11...just saying

https://censor.net.ua/en/news/3168875/jan_9_declared_day_of_mourning_in_ukraine (https://censor.net.ua/en/news/3168875/jan_9_declared_day_of_mourning_in_ukraine)

https://en.hromadske.ua/posts/kremlin-fixer-behind-campaign-against-pro-democracy-leaders-in-russia (https://en.hromadske.ua/posts/kremlin-fixer-behind-campaign-against-pro-democracy-leaders-in-russia)

https://en.hromadske.ua/posts/ukrainian-boeing-crashes-over-tehran-killing-177-live-updates (https://en.hromadske.ua/posts/ukrainian-boeing-crashes-over-tehran-killing-177-live-updates)

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/2851942-ukrainian-planes-banned-from-flying-over-iraq.html (https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/2851942-ukrainian-planes-banned-from-flying-over-iraq.html)


any reason or evidence for missile or just fake rumours?
https://www.unian.info/society/10823096-ukraine-team-to-search-for-aa-missile-fragments-at-ps752-crash-site-nsdc-secretary.html (https://www.unian.info/society/10823096-ukraine-team-to-search-for-aa-missile-fragments-at-ps752-crash-site-nsdc-secretary.html)

Just heard trump rambling he want to add Middle-East countries to NATO ?? WTF it's North ATtantic Treaty organization, and NO you don't pay MOST..NATO is not for your personal warmongering...

And we all know USA doesn't pay most of NATO just 22% (reducing further to 16%? https://www.unian.info/world/10771709-trump-administration-to-cut-financial-contribution-to-nato-to-give-money-to-ukraine-georgia-media.html (https://www.unian.info/world/10771709-trump-administration-to-cut-financial-contribution-to-nato-to-give-money-to-ukraine-georgia-media.html)) Most for NATO is paid just like with UN (50%)https://www.rferl.org/a/eu-diplomat-mogherini-criticizes-us-slashing-contribution-united-nations-640-million-/28477497.html by Europe (just 7% world population) near 66% bij EUrope(excl. USA-Canada-Turkey) http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/05/26/Does-NATO-Really-Owe-US-Money (http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/05/26/Does-NATO-Really-Owe-US-Money) so EUrope should host UN, and also have a EUrope commander instead of always a USA one!

That USA pays more in % in defensecosts is cause they warmonger across the globe and that's not what NATO is founded for. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/30/trumps-claim-that-the-u-s-pays-the-lions-share-for-nato/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/30/trumps-claim-that-the-u-s-pays-the-lions-share-for-nato/) Btw at moment just 62.115 USA soldiers across EUrope (35.000 in Germany btw) versus own 1.8 million so.

As Timothy Snyder said just 20.000 EU/NATO troops could have prevented Crimea invasion in https://youtu.be/yoUkoGn7cRU?t=1h23m50s (https://youtu.be/yoUkoGn7cRU?t=1h23m50s) but USA command prevented that... Late 2013/early 2014 I said on dutch forums : if it goes wrong it can go 2 ways: Cuba crises or Yugoslavia war with 100.000+ deaths. Well Obama was certainly not JFK, so still 85.000 to go, if I'm cynical...???


https://www.fpri.org/article/2020/01/three-conflict-scenarios-for-the-black-sea-in-2020/ (https://www.fpri.org/article/2020/01/three-conflict-scenarios-for-the-black-sea-in-2020/)

http://euromaidanpress.com/2018/10/10/black-sea-gas-deposits-an-overlooked-reason-for-russias-occupation-of-crimea/ (http://euromaidanpress.com/2018/10/10/black-sea-gas-deposits-an-overlooked-reason-for-russias-occupation-of-crimea/)

http://kremlin.ru/supplement/1795 (http://kremlin.ru/supplement/1795)

https://voelkerrechtsblog.org/ukraine-v-russia-passage-through-kerch-strait-and-the-sea-of-azov/ (https://voelkerrechtsblog.org/ukraine-v-russia-passage-through-kerch-strait-and-the-sea-of-azov/)

https://www.reddit.com/r/russiawarinukraine/comments/emncqk/yesterday_heard_trump_rambling_he_want_to_add/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/russiawarinukraine/comments/emncqk/yesterday_heard_trump_rambling_he_want_to_add/)

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