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Oorlog Rusland : 19 februari next after debaltseve

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zowel in Crimea als Transnistrie trainen russische soldaten voor de oorlog tegen Ukraine

http://uatoday.tv/news/russia-training-mercenaries-in-transnistria-and-crimea-for-hybrid-war-against-ukraine-410516.html



https://stopterror.in.ua/
https://translate.google.nl/translate?hl=nl&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fstopterror.in.ua%2F


reddit:

    though aren't nearly all Ukrainians technically ethnically Russian as well?

No, or at least that's no longer the mainstream view in Ukraine or the West. You will find many Russians who think that (which is largely why they feel like Russia and Ukraine must be reunited, sort of like France with Occitania, or the unification of Italy), but most Ukrainians outside of Donbass would not agree. What we today consider Russians and Ukrainians branched apart after the collapse of Rus'. They can both be considered "people of Rus'", but the term "Russian" today refers specifically to the northern branch. Traditionally it's more a continuum rather than strict ethnic borders though. Also, the historical core of Russia was a key part of Kievan Rus' as well (including Moscow), Rus' was not just a Ukrainian state, it was the state from which Ukraine, Russia, and Belarus equally emerged, all three having significant continuity despite the Mongol, Lithuanian, etc invasions.

Balangan's point is that there are plenty of people in the rebel ranks that are ethnic Ukrainians. This conflict is not so much about ethnicity as it is about culture, nostalgia, economics, regionalism, and loyalty to their past. People in the Donbass do not distinguish much between the two ethnicities anyways.

If we are to discuss this conflict at a high level, from an international perspective, it's not appropriate to call an ethnic Ukrainian citizen of Ukraine "a Russian".

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I had this discussion with someone from Russia at some point and he tried to tell me that non-Russian peacekeeper could not be trusted because they would probably start persecuting Russians and protect nazis and other nonsense. That to me illustrates their general mindset pretty well.


http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/u-s-porn-star-sasha-grey-the-unhappy-face-of-new-anti-kiev-propaganda-meme/516149.html
http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2015/02/separatisten_zetten_pornoster.html


I thought about that too. Might be why Hollande declared before Minsk that "if we can't ensure peace, there will be a war". Maybe that was the deal with Poroshenko in the first place - they try Minsk, if it doesn't work France (and presumably other western countries) send the army as peacekeepers, if Russians attack they fight back. Maybe they go into this fully expecting that russians may in fact attack the EU troops.

If Poroshenko made this deal with them, it was actually a pretty good deal.


world according to americans
https://www.google.nl/search?q=the+world+according+to+americans&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Nl_kVPDPA6v-ygOax4Fw&ved=0CCUQsAQ&biw=1530&bih=935

je kan zien dat er geen russen vechten, de vakantiegangers die in gevechtskleding per ongeluk terechtkwamen in het kruisvuur van het Ukrainse leger en de donbass mijnwerkers en vrachtwagenchauffeurs
moeten terug naar rusland gestuurd worden zonder dokumenten.

Het thuisfront (in dit geval wel toepasselijk) mag er niks van te weten komen natuurlijk

The "DNR" were ordered to send to Russia "cargo-200" undocumented local mortuaries
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fespreso.tv%2Fnews%2F2015%2F02%2F19%2Fv_quotdnrquot_otrymaly_nakaz_vidpravlyaty_v_rosiyu_quotvantazhi_200quot_bez_dokumentiv_z_miscevykh_morhiv


cleaningup:

The daughter of one of the leaders of the "FSC" serves as the State Border Service Ukraine
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fespreso.tv%2Fnews%2F2015%2F02%2F18%2Fdochka_odnoho_z_lideriv_quotlnrquot_sluzhyt_v_derzhprykordonsluzhbi_ukrayiny


400 police in kharkiv fired over separatism feelings
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fkorrespondent.net%2Fukraine%2F3481302-v-kharkovskoi-oblasty-za-separatyzm-uvoleny-pochty-400-mylytsyonero


Lithuania says baltics next
http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1892957.html


http://www.unian.info/world/1045568-putin-says-some-countries-supplying-weapons-to-ukraine.html

Let them proof it, they demand proof of russians in Ukraine also and thats easy:
http://en.censor.net.ua/theme/399/Evidence+of+Russian+aggression+in+Ukraine
http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.nl/2015/02/if-you-think-separatists-fight-against.html

http://www.unian.info/politics/1045642-russian-duma-says-minsk-agreements-will-fail-if-us-gives-ukraine-weapons.html

http://www.unian.info/world/1045721-latvia-says-eu-has-no-plan-to-respond-to-hybrid-war.html

http://www.wsj.com/articles/eu-set-to-scale-back-sanctions-against-former-ukraine-presidents-inner-circle-1424174482

http://www.unian.info/politics/1045510-us-senators-merkel-hollande-obama-legitimize-division-of-ukraine.html

Hillary Clinton calls on Europe to stop "lisp" to Russian
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fexpert.ru%2F2015%2F02%2F17%2Fhillari-klinton-prizyivaet-evropu-perestat-syusyukatsya-s-russkimi%2F%3Fny
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/13/politics/hillary-clinton-boris-johnson/index.html?eref=rss_politics


http://www.unian.info/politics/1045561-kazakhstan-readies-to-jump-from-russian-titanic.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-31458426

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31527414 peacekeepers

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/02/13/london-mayor-hillary-clinton-thinks-europe-is-being-wimpy-against-putin/



http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2F24tv.ua%2Fnews%2FshowNews.do%3Fporoshenko_i_genshtab_priymut_nayblizhchim_chasom_rishennya_shhodo_porushennya_peremirya__shkiryak%26objectId%3D544634

Poroshenko and General Staff soon take a decision to institute a truce - Shkiryak

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31167173

http://www.unian.info/world/1045813-europe-committed-to-partnership-with-russia-merkel.html
merkel=chamberlain


http://uatoday.tv/politics/polish-pm-announces-plans-to-up-defense-spending-amid-russian-threat-410227.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2958520/Putin-lazy-drunken-spy-used-beat-wife-ordered-KGB-officers-shoot-peaceful-protesters-according-TV-documentary.html#ixzz3S8VoK7fS
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/426373/Vladimir-Putin-the-man-domestic-abuse
kan mann putin trauen 24.04.2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgjqOUS4VRE

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/11/politics/obama-putin-modernization/

http://www.unian.info/economics/1045805-switzerland-may-lend-ukraine-200-mln.html

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/02/17/ac-amb-pyatt-on-ukraine.cnn

http://joinfo.com/usa/1001329_President-Putin-must-see-limits--expert-says.html

http://www.unian.info/war/1045679-media-dozens-of-bodies-of-those-killed-during-withdrawal-from-debaltseve-brought-to-artemivsk-morgue.html

http://www.unian.info/war/1045533-militants-not-allowing-osce-observers-foreign-journalists-into-debaltseve.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-02-16/russian-economy-may-collapse-through-war-schmieding?cmpid=yhoo

http://www.unian.info/politics/1045783-fighting-near-debaltseve-constitutes-flagrant-violation-of-minsk-accords-pace-president.html

http://www.unian.info/economics/1045657-two-investment-conferences-to-be-held-in-ukraine-in-support-of-reforms.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/russia-marches-on-uninhibited-in-eastern-ukraine/2015/02/18/d43a48d4-b78b-11e4-aa05-1ce812b3fdd2_story.html

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/18/europe/ukraine-conflict/index.html

http://www.unian.info/economics/1045617-sourt-orders-firtash-plant-to-pay-uah-370-mln-debt-to-naftogaz-by-july.html

http://www.unian.info/world/1045812-75-of-poles-think-ukraine-conflict-threatens-their-security.html

http://uk.businessinsider.com/russias-aggression-in-ukraine-is-part-of-a-broader-and-more-dangerous-confrontation-with-the-west-2015-2#ixzz3RsgGgNBl

http://uatoday.tv/society/ukraine-marks-one-year-anniversary-of-euromaidan-this-weekend-409960.html


http://www.unian.info/economics/1045625-gontareva-price-of-gas-for-public-to-increase-by-280-heat-by-66.html


http://www.unian.info/politics/1045614-foreign-ministry-russian-drafted-un-security-council-resolution-on-ukraine-shows-height-of-cynicism.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/videos/2015-02-18/forbes-obama-s-strategy-has-failed-miserably-in-ukraine

http://joinfo.com/usa/1001368_US-Senators-blame-Merkel-and-Obama-of-encouraging.html

http://www.seattleglobalist.com/2015/02/17/ukraine-donbass-latest-news-minsk-putin-mohilnik-seattle/33962

http://www.unian.info/politics/1045773-poroshenko-in-artemivsk-meets-ukrainian-soldiers-who-broke-through-militant-encirclement-in-debaltseve.html

http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2015/02/10/385197419/with-new-moves-russias-parliament-looks-to-rewrite-history

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/02/08/exp-gps-browder-sot-putin.cnn

Zhytomyr svobodovtsy not allow "Brother Rabbit" hold concert
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsvoboda.org.ua%2Fnews%2Fevents%2F00012821%2F

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKKBN0LM0OT20150218

http://joinfo.com/world/1001369_Vladimir-Putin-inspires-Germans-to-create.html


internationale media pakt bewijs tegen russsich leger inmenging op
http://www.examiner.com/article/russian-army-commander-alexander-lentsov-leading-terrorist-offensive-ukraine


Russia's latest disinformation campaign attempts to justify Minsk ceasefire violations
http://www.examiner.com/article/russia-s-latest-disinformation-campaign-attempts-to-justify-ceasefire-violations

http://www.eurasiareview.com/18022015-russias-use-of-disinformation-in-the-ukraine-conflict-analysis

http://joinfo.com/tech/1001370_Russia-to-stop-anonymizing-web-traffic.html

http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op-ed/oksana-bashuk-hepburn-leaders-of-germany-france-collaborate-with-putin-against-ukraine-381139.html

http://www.baltic-course.com/eng/baltic_states_cis/?doc=102624

https://www.youcaring.com/other/help-donbas-volunteers-fight-for-ukrainian-freedom/290291/update/273234

http://joinfo.com/world/1001371_Kremlin-nervously-responds-to-decision-to-invite.html
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fukraineatwar.blogspot.nl%2F2015%2F01%2Feverything-you-ever-wanted-to-know.html&h=bAQE5jsPr

http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/russian-forces-win-a-cease-fire-battle-in-ukraine

http://joinfo.com/world/1001383_US-Ambassador-to-Ukraine-publishes-photo-of.html

http://uatoday.tv/politics/amnesty-410203.html

http://www.unian.info/politics/1045642-russian-duma-says-minsk-agreements-will-fail-if-us-gives-ukraine-weapons.html

Interior Minister warned the Russians that the commandos quickly discourage their desire to live in a democracy
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Finforesist.org%2Fglava-mvd-rf-predupredil-rossiyan-chto-specnaz-bystro-otobet-u-nix-zhelanie-zhit-pri-demokratii%2F

http://uatoday.tv/news/90-of-ukrainain-troops-reportedly-withdrawn-from-debaltseve-410376.html

http://joinfo.com/world/1001374_UK-Defense-Ministry-announces-possible-Russian.html

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/separatists-slam-kiev-s-call-for-un-peacekeepers-to-observe-cease-fire-in-ukraine/516198.html

http://uatoday.tv/news/petro-poroshenko-has-held-a-phone-conversation-in-the-normandy-format-410424.html

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/02/19/uk-ukraine-crisis-russia-gas-idUKKBN0LN0RN20150219

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4527248%2Fashton-carter-backs-arming-ukraine

http://joinfo.com/world/1001375_RNBO-to-ask-UN-and-EU-to-bring-peacekeeping.html

http://joinfo.com/world/1001356_Alexander-Lukashenko-we-are-ready-to-guarantee.html

http://joinfo.com/world/1001351_Canada-imposes-new-sanctions-against-Russia.html

http://glavpost.com/post/19feb2015/blogs/17078-nataliya-mokan-nu-chto-vata-ty-dovolna.html

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/britain-says-photos-show-russia-s-most-advanced-missiles-in-eastern-ukraine/516196.html

http://joinfo.com/world/1001367_Normandy-Four-to-hold-telephone-talks-February-18.html

http://joinfo.com/world/1001373_US-Department-of-State-relies-on-compliance-with.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/videos/2015-02-18/forbes-obama-s-strategy-has-failed-miserably-in-ukraine

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/russias-anti-aircraft-artillery-system-in-ukraine-2015-2

http://uatoday.tv/politics/czech-republic-has-sends-around-hundred-tons-of-humanitarian-aid-to-ukraine-410396.html

http://www.civil.ge/eng/article.php?id=28060

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/12/europes-next-war/

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/magazine/out-of-my-mouth-comes-unimpeachable-manly-truth.html?_r=0

http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/05/05/how-putin-is-reinventing-warfare/

http://www.rferl.org/media/video/26857913.html

http://uatoday.tv/politics/europe-pressures-russia-410288.html

http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2015/02/oekraine_vn_stuur_vredesmacht.html

http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2015/02/rusland_bedreiging_voor_baltis.html


Ukrainse troepen worden beschoten door russen bij Mariupol,
in Donetsk, en vlakbij Debaltseve, russen lappen Minsk aan hun laars

en amerikaans antwoord komt snel

hoe zeggen ze dat ook alweer:

now we're talking, komen er meer russische troepen, dan komen meer wapens voor ukraine

http://www.wsj.com/articles/more-russian-troops-enter-ukraine-1424342640?mod=fox_australian
klopt niet normandy 4 blijven bij wpaenstilstand, tot nu of moet mariupol ook vallen?


:-)

rusland zegt toch al dat er wapens van USA/NATO in Ukraine zijn dan kunnen we ze net zo goed binnenbrnegen ook

now we're talking

en meer sancties natuurlijk... disconnect swift ofzo
op cnn wapperden hele dag russische vlaggen in beeld dus bewijs geleverd




Russen gaan er vol tegenaan, OSCE krijgt geen toegenag tot Debaltseve en geen medewerking russen

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftyzhden.ua%2FNews%2F130279%3Futm_medium%3Dtwitter%26utm_source%3Dtwitterfeed

OSCE has recorded new attacks in the Donbas and denied that withdrawal of heavy weapons
"Minsk document - it does not list a purchase, our access to Debaltsevo must be unconditional," said a spokesman for the mission.

Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe denied that withdrawal of heavy weapons in the area of ​​counter-terrorism operations, while a number of recorded attacks that violate Minsky agreement. This was announced in Kiev special spokesman of the OSCE Michael Bociurkiw.

According to him, the OSCE has documented numerous attacks in the area ATO for 18 February.

In particular, Luhansk sector observers recorded remote attacks in Raygorodok (twice).

February 18 morning in Bahmutivtsi fixed shelling and poobidi in Muratov.

Also, according to Botsyurkiva, shots were heard in Kramatorsk sector.

Speaking of Donetsk sector, he said that the explosions were heard in the area of ​​Lower Krynka.

He also suggested that the artillery fired in Donetsk, because there was heard artillery shots.

It was also heard shots in Yasinovataya.

Regarding Mariupol Bociurkiw said that for 18 February Shyrokynomu was firing mortars.

The OSCE Minsk agreement signatories urged to adhere to all the rules of agreements, including a ceasefire and begin removal of weapons.

"Minsky document - it does not list the store. Our access must be absolute and complete in all places ceasefire, which is the basic document for the implementation of Minsk, "- said Bociurkiw.

He added that the members of the mission could not get in Debaltseve as militants gave them security guarantees.

"We received a written response from the separatists, they can not give us security. This effectively means that we were not given access there. As unarmed civilian mission, we can not send our people to places where so dangerous, "- said Bociurkiw.

He added that due to the lack of Debaltseve OSCE it can not evaluate events in the city. "We report only what we can see with my own eyes," - said Bociurkiw.

Recall, February 18, the OSCE tried again to get Debaltsevo militants threatening in case of refusal "serious consequences" .
Radio Liberty


En Europa wil vasthouden aan wapenstilstand welke??


http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnv.ua%2Fukraine%2Fvnezapnoe-reshenie-kieva-o-mirotvorcah-sbilo-s-tolku-moskvu-i-boevikov-35323.html
The sudden decision of Kiev peacekeepers baffled Moscow and militants

http://uatoday.tv/politics/eu-police-mission-410542.html
http://uatoday.tv/politics/bbc-shelling-spreads-in-east-ukraine-despite-ceasefire-410505.html
http://uatoday.tv/politics/poroshenko-russia-will-not-take-part-in-donbas-peacekeeping-mission-410481.html


http://uatoday.tv/news/retreating-soldiers-say-some-ukrainian-troops-still-trapped-in-debaltseve-410476.html
http://uatoday.tv/news/russian-backed-militants-intensify-attacks-near-mariupol-410470.html

http://uatoday.tv/society/exclusive-interview-french-intellectual-bernard-henri-levy-calls-on-europe-to-stand-up-to-putin-410465.html

http://uatoday.tv/news/bbc-russia-accuses-ukraine-of-aiming-to-destroy-minsk-accords-410451.html

http://uatoday.tv/politics/debaltseve-death-toll-ukrainian-officials-confirm-14-soldiers-killed-in-past-24-hours-410454.html

http://uatoday.tv/business/ruble-tumbles-after-oil-prices-fall-410411.html


Russian Army in Ukraine: OSCE chief Zannier says troops and weapons flow from Russia into Ukraine

The head of the OSCE monitoring body says the east Ukraine war is being fuelled from the Russian side of the border.
Speaking in Kyiv, Lamberto Zannier said Russia was propping up Kremlin-backed militants fighting Ukrainian forces.
http://youtu.be/yZcapxK8O-g




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